Am I the only one that thinks Google[x] is just the arm of google that looks for far future intellectual property to patent and never really produces usable tech? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Hopefully Google patents lots of useful stuff before anyone else. Google's record on patents is pretty responsible.
Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)
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Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)
#112Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)
#113Where's all the FUD about collecting user data and doing evil things with it that we've been seeing in the Google+Nest stories lately? "But what about when google sells your data to insurance companies, who then penalize diabetics for not maintaining specific glucose levels?' "Do you really want google to know every single thing you put into your body?" "Can we trust google to not put advertisements in the contact le…
I will wear an ankle bracelet for Google if it means I get my hands on this.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
likely on the order of years they have to prove that the monitoring it provides is accurate, measures what they think it does (I.e. no false positives or negatives), and doesn't v endanger the users lives (I.e. doesn't blind them I see the proposed led being an issue here since it can go off at night, and likely that it doesn't have a severe lag time that would reduce the likelihood of a life saving response because…
"every diabetic I know would switch to this in a blink" I see what you did there.
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#115Type I diabetic here. Assuming current tech stays where it is (not saying it will), this could easily tack 10 years on to my lifespan. For many who watch their diabetes less closely (something I cannot fault anyone for), this could add 20-30 years. For anyone who does not know, type I diabetes is not something you can just follow a doctor's direction on and be ok. Even if you follow your doctor perfectly, there can s…
>type I diabetics with the best control are actually more likely to die from severe low blood sugars. I'm very much in this crowd. Type 1, AIC of 6.3, LDL cholesterol around 100, BP of 110/72-75. This is with completely manual testing and subcutaneous insulin injections. The problem of keeping your blood sugar towards an A1C of 6 is you have insulin reactions. Quite often, as you're being rather aggressive in keeping…
Weird that you don't see any symptoms at such a low level. My vision would completely black out except for maybe half a centimeter blurry hole... everyday. It took hours to recover. I was always munching on snacks to prevent low blood sugar but it never helped. Thankfully I'm alright now.
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Sometimes statements are statements. People needlessly attach emotion to the written word when there is no need. Happens millions of times a day on email...
It really comes down to phrasing. If they had said "Have you tried a ketogenic diet?" Or "Some people have found a ketogenic diet to be helpful with type 1 diabetes." it would be fine. Instead it came off as an order or command: "Switch to a ketogenic diet." One of the things about written communication is we only have your phrasing and word choice to inform us of your tone and meaning. It is vitally important to use…
What if I told you;
It is up to you to be able to not ever take anything anyone else says as an "Order or Command"
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Sympathize with you! How would reduced accuracy really help you? I'm imagining that it could be worse since it could introduce anxiety...
I think what he's saying is that an accuracy of, say, 10 mg/dL on a continuous basis is better than an effortful (requires you to test — and, perhaps more importantly for Type 1 diabetics, to be able to test ) accuracy of 1 mg/dL. That's still going to tell you with enough accuracy whether you need to get some carbs into your system, or whether you've put too many in already. Please correct me if I've misconstrued.
If, on he other hand, errors between close in time measurements are correlated, that won't work. You might get "things look fine" measurements for an hour while your glucose level is dangerously low or vice versa.
Given that the first two kinds of errors can be worked around, I would guess this device to produce the third kind of error. You don't need 1s intervals in glucose reading to improve the life of diabetics; 10 minutes or even an hour would be fine, too.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sympathize with you! How would reduced accuracy really help you? I'm imagining that it could be worse since it could introduce anxiety...
I think what he's saying is that an accuracy of, say, 10 mg/dL on a continuous basis is better than an effortful (requires you to test — and, perhaps more importantly for Type 1 diabetics, to be able to test ) accuracy of 1 mg/dL. That's still going to tell you with enough accuracy whether you need to get some carbs into your system, or whether you've put too many in already. Please correct me if I've misconstrued.
Nevertheless 10 mg/dL is just the right accuracy needed to control type I diabetes. I don't tend to attach much importance to the last digit anyway.
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>type I diabetics with the best control are actually more likely to die from severe low blood sugars. I'm very much in this crowd. Type 1, AIC of 6.3, LDL cholesterol around 100, BP of 110/72-75. This is with completely manual testing and subcutaneous insulin injections. The problem of keeping your blood sugar towards an A1C of 6 is you have insulin reactions. Quite often, as you're being rather aggressive in keeping…
Do you just check LDL or do you also check trigs and hdl? Weird that you don't see any symptoms at such a low level. My vision would completely black out except for maybe half a centimeter blurry hole... everyday. It took hours to recover. I was always munching on snacks to prevent low blood sugar but it never helped. Thankfully I'm alright now.
It is not weird not feeling it until such low levels at all. Some diabetics never feel low blood sugars; the longer you have diabetes the more common it is to experience this phenomena. Additionally how you "feel" a low blood sugar varies over your lifetime so the "tells" change. This means we may be feeling different, but have no idea that it is because of a low blood sugar since we haven't felt this new warning symptom before.
When I first was diagnosed with diabetes I could tell quite early if my blood sugar was low. If my blood sugar dipped to just 70 I would start shaking like a leaf. Now I don't have any warning signs at least until I hit around 55 and sometimes not until the low 30s; when I have symptoms at all. I have twice had incidents where I fell because my blood sugar had dipped so low with no physical warning signs. Both times my vision went black for a second and I fell over. I don't know if this was me actually "passing out", but in both instances I recovered almost immediately and immediately consumed large quantities of juice to get my bgl back to normal as quick as possible.
When I do have a tell it is difficult to even notice now; the best way I can even describe it is that I have a very sudden sense of dread as a feel my mind sort of shifting away from me. By this point I'm so low as to be in serious danger zone. I try like crazy to stay out as far away from that as possible by testing as frequently as possible, but your fingers can only take so much; and even if they could take some more the insurance carriers won't cover more test strips anyway.
I think this Google product is a great idea and I would love to see something like this actually work, but like the parent of this thread; I'll believe it when I see it. I've been reading about all sorts of wonderful continual monitoring solutions for BGLs for years and have seen nothing come of it.
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I really feel your pain. The reason why I love this meter so much is that it doesn't require a £50 USB cable (The usb is built into the meter) the proprietry software is a standalone jar on the USB device which is amazingly quite good. But best of all when you plug the USB device in it mounts as removable storage with a db.sqlite file which is easily accessible and a simple .dump reveals the sensible DB schema. It's…
Thanks for the tip. I will buy this and try it out, open sourcing any scripts I can write that will assist in the extraction. Do you know of any existing tools?
You need to use the Bayer software to talk to it (I'd recommend actually installing the software rather than using the copy from the meter itself). But then the readings are stored in a standard sqlite database without any obfuscation etc. It uses some sort of hash so you can't actually modify things, but for just getting the raw numbers I didn't have any trouble.