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Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by twistedpair »

ancarda wrote: post #79
hahainternet wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You know G+ is an abysmal failure when the Page & Co has to force it on users of google's other services. C'mon bro, what gives? They literally have been explaining this for nearly a year. There's no such thing as a G+ account and a 'Google Account'. They are the same things. I think if anything what this has proven is that you cannot rely on your customers to read the slightest thing from you, but if you change ho…

No. Moral of the story is "Don't fuck around". I like my YouTube account. I don't like Google+. Stop forcing it on me. I'd be happy with a YouTube that doesn't let me comment but let's me upload videos and everything else I'm doing now. Instead, I'm packing up and leaving. The irony is your moral might just work. Google will end up with less and less customers if they keep behaving in this way. Only people willing to…

I guess you're not on FB either, or you'd be upset that half the websites you join want you to sign up with FB Connect. Similar with Apple's services. Single shot services are growing few and far between on the web.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by hahainternet »

ancarda wrote: post #79
hahainternet wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You know G+ is an abysmal failure when the Page & Co has to force it on users of google's other services. C'mon bro, what gives? They literally have been explaining this for nearly a year. There's no such thing as a G+ account and a 'Google Account'. They are the same things. I think if anything what this has proven is that you cannot rely on your customers to read the slightest thing from you, but if you change ho…

No. Moral of the story is "Don't fuck around". I like my YouTube account. I don't like Google+. Stop forcing it on me. I'd be happy with a YouTube that doesn't let me comment but let's me upload videos and everything else I'm doing now. Instead, I'm packing up and leaving. The irony is your moral might just work. Google will end up with less and less customers if they keep behaving in this way. Only people willing to…

> I like my YouTube account. I don't like Google+. Stop forcing it on me. I'd be happy with a YouTube that doesn't let me comment but let's me upload videos and everything else I'm doing now. Instead, I'm packing up and leaving.

Literally nobody cares.

> The irony is your moral might just work. Google will end up with less and less customers if they keep behaving in this way. Only people willing to tolerate Google+ will be left. Maybe that's what they want.

I hope so! I can only imagine if Youtube was as full of interesting content as G+, and not so filled with people whining that a terrible terrible system isn't being kept soley for their own preferences.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by hahainternet »

ringdabell wrote: post #107
hahainternet wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You know G+ is an abysmal failure when the Page & Co has to force it on users of google's other services. C'mon bro, what gives? They literally have been explaining this for nearly a year. There's no such thing as a G+ account and a 'Google Account'. They are the same things. I think if anything what this has proven is that you cannot rely on your customers to read the slightest thing from you, but if you change ho…

> There's no such thing as a G+ account and a 'Google Account'. They are the same things Thats not the case if you registered for a google service (i.e. gmail) pre G+, which I imagine includes a TON of users. If you fall into this category (like me) and don't have a G+ account (i.e. a "Public Profile), you get spammed like crazy and constantly asked to join up. And the service isn't free. I'm paying for it with my us…

> Thats not the case if you registered for a google service (i.e. gmail) pre G+, which I imagine includes a TON of users. If you fall into this category (like me) and don't have a G+ account (i.e. a "Public Profile), you get spammed like crazy and constantly asked to join up.

Right, because they're amalgamating the accounts. They've been telling people this forever.

> And the service isn't free. I'm paying for it with my user information

No you're not. It's free.

> We need to get rid of this narrative that creators = god and users = proles that don't have the "right" to complain.

Who said anything about creators. They /OWN/ Youtube. They have made it /VERY/ clear what is happening. If you want to ignore that that's up to you, but you can't turn around and act as if it's some inexplicable weird move that makes no sense when they have detailed every step of it.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by mtgx »

doe88 wrote: post #8

That way Google+ can claim 1 billion active users and say their service is a huge success, even surpassing their nemesis Facebook.

Google has claimed right from the beginning that they want G+ to be a "social layer" across all of their services, which could also be seen as a "social network", but not in the same way Facebook is a "social network.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by _wp3r »

ancarda wrote: post #55

A few weeks ago, YouTube started automatically signing me into my Google+ account (which I was forced into getting) rather than my YouTube account -- which has years of favorites and other content. I'm getting sick of it. I only signed up to Google+ because my friend wanted to use Hangouts. Now it's screwed up my YouTube channel and I can't revert it. The only reason I post on YouTube is to share small clips with peo…

You can revert the change. In the settings menu.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by leokun »

jerf wrote: post #76
VikingCoder wrote: post #7

Because YouTube comments were completely useless, and now the company is trying to make them useful / interesting. If I go to a viral video, and I see comments on it from people I actually KNOW, I personally think that would be really cool. That was completely impossible, the old way.

"If I go to a viral video, and I see comments on it from people I actually KNOW, I personally think that would be really cool. That was completely impossible, the old way." I keep seeing companies pushing this idea on us, but I just don't get it. The math doesn't work. There are umpty millions of pieces of "content" that might be reviewed. I have at most a few hundred actual friends. (I imagine those who push beyond…

> I have at most a few hundred actual friends.

I was going to complain about the impossibility of being intimately acquainted with hundreds of people enough to call them friend only to find out my dictionary had a new definition for friend:

> "a contact associated with a social networking website"

In which case, carry on I guess.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by prostoalex »

ToastyMallows wrote: post #46
sker wrote: post #20

I've pretty much given up. Google has deleted my playlists and favorites countless times. Every time they try to integrate YouTube with one of their services/account management, I end up losing everything. My only consolation is that Google+ is accumulating a lot of vitriol and hate across the web. It's shaping up to be the most hated "social" product in the entire Internet.

I've never had this happen and I've had a YouTube account for a while. This honestly sounds like a bug of some sort. Have you found other people experiencing this?

Yep, YouTube accounts are used in the apps shipped with smart TVs. Move to Google+ made it pretty much impossible to populate the playlists in a computer/phone to watch it later on a Vizio TV app. The app doesn't accept Google+ logins, and the data under YouTube login (playlists, subscriptions, watch it later) has been wiped out.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

silverbax88 wrote: post #95
jonknee wrote: post #84

Considering that it was nearly impossible to make YouTube's commenting system worse, I'm interested to see if the G+ integration improves things. For whatever reason YouTube has forever had the lowest quality comments of any site I can think of.

And now they will have the lowest quantity as well.

If the quality is so bad isn't it a good thing to have fewer of them? ;-)

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by kmfrk »

ZeWaren wrote: post #50
sker wrote: post #20

I've pretty much given up. Google has deleted my playlists and favorites countless times. Every time they try to integrate YouTube with one of their services/account management, I end up losing everything. My only consolation is that Google+ is accumulating a lot of vitriol and hate across the web. It's shaping up to be the most hated "social" product in the entire Internet.

I also had my playlists and favorites deleted during a Youtube/Google merge. Quite annoying. I should have used backups.

These days, you need a Google+ account to back it up. As I don't have one, I'm pretty boned ...

Gotta love that lock-in.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by lmm »

john-n wrote: post #29
sker wrote: post #20

I've pretty much given up. Google has deleted my playlists and favorites countless times. Every time they try to integrate YouTube with one of their services/account management, I end up losing everything. My only consolation is that Google+ is accumulating a lot of vitriol and hate across the web. It's shaping up to be the most hated "social" product in the entire Internet.

Forgetting Buzz?

Buzz didn't keep hassling me when I was trying to use youtube.
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