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Re: Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam

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Post by yapcguy »

nknighthb wrote: post #103
yapcguy wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a farce. You've just shown there is nothing wrong with my statement "commute to Cupertino from the Bay Area every day" which you seem to have such a problem with. Also with regards to: > "the 101" is slightly unusual phrasing, too. Usually it's just "101". Are you being serious?!!

One does not commute "from" a place to itself. You're trying to backpedal, but your chain is tangled in the English language's entrails. It also makes no logical sense, as there would be no reason to mention where they commute from unless you thought it was of some significance, in which case you would want to be clear on where they are commuting from. Or are you now trying to insinuate that every engineer in the Bay…

At the end of the day, the engineers that I personally know who contract at Apple are competent but not great. They happen to commute. The two are not related. There is no insinuation in the original post that all engineers who commute are mediocre.

I am however insinuating that the culture at Apple may have changed, which allows merely competent engineers to be hired in the first place, while great engineers like Bertand Serlet leave the company, to the detriment of OS X.

As for the 101, you must be trolling...

Re: Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam

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Post by eknkc »

mahyarm wrote: post #102

Someone suggested http://airmailapp.com/ as a replacement email app for OSX in a recent HN thread and I've been very happy with it. Only downside so far is it doesn't have outlook contact integration, so you don't get autocomplete for all the email addresses in your company unlike microsoft outlook. Which is too bad, because airmail + apple calendar is much faster than microsoft outlook.

Airmail is really good. I have a couple of problems but the developers are really responsive and bugs are getting fixed pretty fast.

Re: Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam

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Post by wiml »

grn wrote: post #18

From the comments I draw the conclusion that a solid, open source, GUI e-mail client would have great popularity. Are there such clients out there? I used Thunderbird under Linux but it feels cumbersome.

I think Trojitá http://trojita.flaska.net/ has recently crossed the line from being a promising project to being a useful MUA. It has quite a good IMAP implementation.

Re: Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam

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Post by oleganza »

eknkc wrote: post #83

I think it's one user with a fucked up mailbox rule that copies stuff around or something like that. Apple also runs iCloud mail servers on IMAP, I think they would catch that if it was a widespread issue on betas.

I know at least 2 people plus myself who have the very same problem with Gmail IMAP and new Mail.app.

Re: Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam

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Post by anoncowherd »

dmbaggett wrote: post #91
porker wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I think of "most mail clients" I think of Outlook, Thunderbird and so on - I wouldn't term something that didn't support at least one of POP or IMAP an email client. Proprietary email client maybe, like AOL's built-in one...

So your differing point of view means it's OK to malign us publicly? By "FUD" you surely meant to imply that we were trying to do something malicious, when, literally, all we're trying to do is make people's inboxes ever-so-slightly happier places. To be clear: - this is a really hard problem - we're iterating in public to get user feedback - we're not charging anything and don't have any immediate plans to - we spec…

>> "Most mail clients only support the popular email providers."

This is simply false, as most mail clients really do support IMAP/POP. The statement caught my eye too. No need to get all huffy about someone pointing this out.

Re: Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam

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Post by lancewiggs »

dmbaggett wrote: post #91
porker wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I think of "most mail clients" I think of Outlook, Thunderbird and so on - I wouldn't term something that didn't support at least one of POP or IMAP an email client. Proprietary email client maybe, like AOL's built-in one...

So your differing point of view means it's OK to malign us publicly? By "FUD" you surely meant to imply that we were trying to do something malicious, when, literally, all we're trying to do is make people's inboxes ever-so-slightly happier places. To be clear: - this is a really hard problem - we're iterating in public to get user feedback - we're not charging anything and don't have any immediate plans to - we spec…

Those are potential customers you are yelling at. Really smart early adopters with influence. And a very large number of people are watching. Whether they are right or wrong, we are all watching for how you handle the situation.

Between this and an avoided answer to whether you keep passwords in the cloud you've lost one potential customer.

Re: Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam

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Post by porker »

dmbaggett wrote: post #91
porker wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I think of "most mail clients" I think of Outlook, Thunderbird and so on - I wouldn't term something that didn't support at least one of POP or IMAP an email client. Proprietary email client maybe, like AOL's built-in one...

So your differing point of view means it's OK to malign us publicly? By "FUD" you surely meant to imply that we were trying to do something malicious, when, literally, all we're trying to do is make people's inboxes ever-so-slightly happier places. To be clear: - this is a really hard problem - we're iterating in public to get user feedback - we're not charging anything and don't have any immediate plans to - we spec…

dmbaggett, I apologise that you have taken my message this way, and it's true I have been influenced by the all-too-common tone on this site; but I stand by my original comment that this is a line to spread FUD, like any company who tries to make out that their product is so different to the competition. You have unique features I'm sure, a unique take on email - don't rubbish your competition by spreading what is demonstrably not true for most email clients.

Re: Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam

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Post by sgs1370 »

ifcho wrote: post #105
dmbaggett wrote: post #60

If you're sick of the mail program that comes with your OS, try Inky ( http://inky.com ). It's still in beta, but we just put out a refreshed version that fixes a lot of issues users reported throughout 2013. Lots of polishing work still remains, but we're happily dog-fooding it and have a loyal following around the world. (And yes, Linux guys, we're still planning to release a version for Ubuntu -- finally.) Inky is…

It may be nice, but it looks terrible on a Macbook Retina :-/

Retina support is in development now, it requires moving from CEF1 to CEF3.

Re: Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam

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Post by sgs1370 »

lancewiggs wrote: post #116
dmbaggett wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your differing point of view means it's OK to malign us publicly? By "FUD" you surely meant to imply that we were trying to do something malicious, when, literally, all we're trying to do is make people's inboxes ever-so-slightly happier places. To be clear: - this is a really hard problem - we're iterating in public to get user feedback - we're not charging anything and don't have any immediate plans to - we spec…

Those are potential customers you are yelling at. Really smart early adopters with influence. And a very large number of people are watching. Whether they are right or wrong, we are all watching for how you handle the situation. Between this and an avoided answer to whether you keep passwords in the cloud you've lost one potential customer.

We know it makes some uncomfortable to have the credentials in the cloud, but we felt it was important to make it as easy as possible for people to be able to use any device (we're working on iOS and Android) to access all of their email accounts. Of course it's up to you to decide if you trust us, but we've went to great lengths to make sure your emails don't pass through our servers and to keep your credentials secure. We explain our security precautions on our FAQ, which we'll continue to enhance going forward.

Re: Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam

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Post by buster »

dmbaggett wrote: post #60

If you're sick of the mail program that comes with your OS, try Inky ( http://inky.com ). It's still in beta, but we just put out a refreshed version that fixes a lot of issues users reported throughout 2013. Lots of polishing work still remains, but we're happily dog-fooding it and have a loyal following around the world. (And yes, Linux guys, we're still planning to release a version for Ubuntu -- finally.) Inky is…

I would love to find a new mail client to replace evolution or thunderbird. Will Inky be released for Debian as well?

Does Inky support this?

  - proper mail indexing and search on large mailboxes
  - S/MIME
  - per-account HTML signatures
  - CardDAV
  - CalDAV
Edit: Also, i am wondering what inky's business model is? Will the client cost money in the future? Ads?
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