Can I easily delete my Google+ account w/o hampering my Gmail/calendar/etc? I made it once but I see only drawbacks in having it. I'm already fed up with the repeated requests to merge my Youtube 'channel' (wtf? I don't have or want a channel, I've made [edit] For example, I'm worried about their warning on Google+ deletion page 'You won't be able to use the "Sign in with Google" button to log in to third-party apps.…
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#114So you write a public review of a business, and then you're upset because Google shows people that review? I really don't get it. What if your review was the first search result instead? Isn't that the same thing? If I search for a product on Amazon, it shows me the number of stars for each product, and if I click on that it shows me excerpts of different people's reviews. How is that any different? http://imgur.com/…
"Actions you take on Google" is incredibly broad, and could be construed to include your email activity, web searches, Google Checkout purchases, etc. This is what concerns me: I can't say for certain which of my actions may show up in ads. They claim that I can control these, but I can't find a way to disable them without making a Google+ account.
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#115I attempted to understand what exactly this change means, but I could not. I then attempted to opt out, but I could not; I don't know if that means I am opted out or not. As a result I mistrust this change. I saw the banner on the top of the Search page, linking to the new ToS. Here is what it says: your friends, family and others may see your Profile name and photo, and content like the reviews you share or the ads…
Your comments on Blogger are fair game already. They are not private in any way.
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#116Am I the only one that sees the comedic potential in this? Rate something 5/5. For example for a review of a restauraunt say "5/5. Sure beats eating rats infected with syphilis." or "4/5. Tastes like leprosy! Smells like porn locker!" And I'm just being very bad here: http://www.amazon.com/Avoid-Huge-Ships-John-Trimmer/dp/08703...
This is exactly what I thought. How are they going to be sure that the review is actually honest and relevant. What if I say something contradictory in the review? Or post irrelevant stuff in it? The only way they could avoid such face-palms would be to do some sort of natural language analysis. Or have humans curate and cherry-pick the reviews. The latter one would be worrying indeed. People are already ruffled up a…
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#117The concern, at least for me, is not that a "public" review being used in a "public" way, it's that these businesses are now paying Google for my review and I get no cut. When I wrote this review I didn't write it to help this business out, per se, I wrote it because I wanted to help potential consumers decide where to do business based on my experiences.
Why did you put public in quotes?
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#118The concern, at least for me, is not that a "public" review being used in a "public" way, it's that these businesses are now paying Google for my review and I get no cut. When I wrote this review I didn't write it to help this business out, per se, I wrote it because I wanted to help potential consumers decide where to do business based on my experiences.
That's the way it should be. Otherwise, you'd be incentivized to leave (dishonestly) positive reviews.
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#119So, the expectation when you write a positive review on a Google service is that the review will not be displayed as an endorsement of the product? Isn't that the entire point of writing the review?
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>Again, no where did I ever say that an ad is better than an organic result. Please don't claim that I did. It's simply not true. Hm. I'm sorry. That is the impression I've gotten from multiple google employees... that is the impression I got from your post, too. However, you are correct. that's not what you said, that's my interpretation of what you said, which yeah. Is a very different thing. (I mean, I could say I…
That's actually as much, or more, of an argument for better ads as it is for "worse" content. Competition is generally considered good, and I see competition all around here. In search Google is not simply going to slow down, that would be a recipe for obsolescence. If Google can make search results 10x better, I'm sure they can figure out how to monetize it. If Google lets Bing catch up, that's trouble. In ads, if t…
That's certainly a healthy way to look at it, but google is still competing with itself internally, which I think is rather different from competing with an external company.
>Competition is generally considered good,
There are two ways of competing; making your product [appear] better, and making the other guy's product [appear] worse. The difference between external and internal competition is that with external competition, you have the option of trying to make your competitor's product appear to be worse, but it's pretty difficult to actually make it worse. With competition within a company? It's much easier to actually make the competing product worse. (Note, I'm not saying that google is doing that... just that competition between departments within a company is often not as beneficial as competition between companies with different ownership.)
>I see competition all around here.
Well, first, I am glad that you (as a googler) see competition, but my view, as an outsider? you don't have serious competition. I mean, as a business owner (and someone who buys ads) your competition is... meat-space ads, mostly. And relationships with sites your customers care about. (Sponsorship and the like, which is higher labor, but I think often gives higher value to the advertiser than display ads. I'm not sure it's an approach that scales.)
As a consumer, I don't see serious competition for low-cost email. I don't see serious competition for search. You have a big lead, in most of your consumer products.
Obviously, Google doesn't have a lead at all in social networking, and, I think, google shifting so much of their emphasis to that market is a symptom of not having serious competition in other markets. (I believe, well... I hope that the social networking market is not as big or as important as the market right now thinks it is.)
>If Google can make search results 10x better, I'm sure they can figure out how to monetize it.
There's a difference between "oh, that would be nice" and "we must do this or we will no longer exist as a company (or lose significant market share.)"
I can tell you this from recent personal experience. Two years ago, increasing ram and disk allocations for my customers "would be nice" - and I started moving on it. some customers got upgraded, but not many.
Today? it's an existential problem. I've lost 15% of my customers in just a few months. If I don't get users upgraded (and open new signups) with dramatically more resources per dollar soon...
So yeah; Consider me motivated. Between my previous post and this post, I caused nearly a terabyte in ram (and servers to put said ram in) to appear in my van.
(I know that the motivations of public companies are... different. But generally, this is the narrative that is used to explain why competition is good, even if this narrative does not always fit the data.)