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After reading many of these articles about the NSA I keep wondering if they have an office specifically tasked with thinking up code names for these projects. I personally would find it difficult to keep them all straight—this article, for example, contained a new one to me: ONIONBREATH. Just an odd image in my mind of a group of top-security clearance, extremely well trained, able-minded people who think up silly co…

Many government agencies do this - check out the names for DEA stings, or even FDA operations.

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and a beard... like terrorists can be stereotyped like that. This is more than just propaganda, this is the mentality of the type of people who put these presentations together. That fact that whoever wrote this presentation has profiled people like this. I would wager that 99% of online "terrorists" are sitting around in jeans and t-shirts, on safe soil, have probably never handled a gun, let alone an AK-47 (or what…

And banks don't actually keep money in big cloth bags with dollar signs on them. It's just clip art, and to say that it speaks to the mindset of a type of people you probably don't really know much about. I would hasten to say that your stereotypes are probably no more grounded in reality than those of the straw men your attacking. >"If you look at the world around us and review the history of terrorism, most of it's…

++ this. this ppt isn't an analysis of terrorist personas, it's about tor.

it's expected to use steriotypical shoe-ins for concepts outside the scope of the presentation.

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post #64

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And banks don't actually keep money in big cloth bags with dollar signs on them. It's just clip art, and to say that it speaks to the mindset of a type of people you probably don't really know much about. I would hasten to say that your stereotypes are probably no more grounded in reality than those of the straw men your attacking. >"If you look at the world around us and review the history of terrorism, most of it's…

No, it requires the United States' own definition of terrorism to be applied to the US. Drone strikes in Pakistan alone have killed thousands of civilians. Many of the opposition groups you mentioned were backed by the US knowing that they committed and intended to commit terrorism and other war crimes.

A more detailed argument is here

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/08/is-america-the-worlds...

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Oh, come on, they're humans too, and thus subject to deliberately unfunny jokes in (technical or not) slide presentations like the rest of us. From a quick look this one seems more plausible than the absurd PRISM presentation.

>From a quick look this one seems more plausible than the absurd PRISM presentation. Are you suggesting that the leaked PRISM presentations are not authentic?

I'm not sure. You can imagine that presentation in some run-of-the-mill crappy company meeting full of 9-5ers, but it's hard to imagine intelligent people with good educations presenting information to each other like that. I know there are all sorts of contractors, but would they really be discussing such weighty issues?
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