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Sergey Brin invests in synthetic beef

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Re: Sergey Brin invests in synthetic beef

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You think maybe you should try to realign your emotional reactions with reality then?

Stop bullying people into agreement with your own ethics.

"don't bully people into your ethics" is itself an ethic, which you are yourself attempting to get the parent to conform to.

Re: Sergey Brin invests in synthetic beef

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I can't wait to see the cognitive dissonance from the "natural" people. On one hand, it could quite possibly replace factory farming and eliminate a huge amount of waste, pollution, and animal cruelty. On the other hand, it's GMO. I love seeing True Believers in Movementarianism squirm. I'm equal opportunity here. I like pointing out the philosophical inconsistencies of dogmatic positivism to your typical Reddit /r/a…

I love me some dead cow once in a while and have a problem with waste, pollution cruelty etc... and I have concerns about GMO. But this ain't "not cow".

It's still the genetically identical counterpart to the pasture-raised variety without the pasture so how is it "dissonance"?

Re: Sergey Brin invests in synthetic beef

#113

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Stop bullying people into agreement with your own ethics.

"don't bully people into your ethics" is itself an ethic, which you are yourself attempting to get the parent to conform to.

It's more of a social courtesy akin to not prosthelytizing or shilling commercial products. HN is not a very good place for those kinds of things, nor is it a good place to tell people they're not emoting correctly in a bid to bully them into caring about factory farming.

Re: Sergey Brin invests in synthetic beef

#114
post #97

I can't wait to see the cognitive dissonance from the "natural" people. On one hand, it could quite possibly replace factory farming and eliminate a huge amount of waste, pollution, and animal cruelty. On the other hand, it's GMO. I love seeing True Believers in Movementarianism squirm. I'm equal opportunity here. I like pointing out the philosophical inconsistencies of dogmatic positivism to your typical Reddit /r/a…

You can also dislike both Big Pharma and alternative medicine. That removes the philosophical inconsistencies and just leaves you bitter and disappointed.

Re: Sergey Brin invests in synthetic beef

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At both food stores I shop at, there are already freezer sections of fake meat. Mostly (entirely?) based on extremely heavily processed soy. I would imagine this different form of fake meat would sneak into that same section. I would bet you could sell more "real" fake meat to vegetarians sick of flavored tofu easier than selling "real" fake meat to omnivores used to the real stuff. Back when I used to eat soy, I occ…

First off, many vegetarians don't eat junk food out of the freezer; there are many wholesome and delicious alternatives to "flavored tofu." Second, many celebrate lab meat for its potential reduction of animal exploitation, but that doesn't mean that they will eat it. The preference for it is often lost early on.

Re: Sergey Brin invests in synthetic beef

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> "Cows are very inefficient, they require 100g of vegetable protein to produce only 15g of edible animal protein," Dr Post told the Guardian before the event. "So we need to feed the cows a lot so that we can feed ourselves. We lose a lot of food that way.

Yes, if most of what you feed the cows are human-edible.

Re: Sergey Brin invests in synthetic beef

#118

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You think maybe you should try to realign your emotional reactions with reality then?

Stop bullying people into agreement with your own ethics.

You appear to have a ridiculous definition of "bullying".

Re: Sergey Brin invests in synthetic beef

#119
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Creating jobs that people don't want and won't show up for, more like. With unemployment where it is now, you'd think Americans would sign up to pick fruit. But they don't, and we're dependent on migrant labor. More labor also means more expensive food. In the whole spectrum of human existence, farming sucks. It sucked so much that people remained hunter-gatherers as long as they could to avoid it, and it sucks so mu…

Unfortunately, your opinion just isn't based in fact.

My opinion is based on the current US farm labor situation and the general history of mankind that saw hunter-gatherers forcibly displace agricultural civilizations throughout the Middle Ages followed by massive migration to cities since th Industrial Revolution. Your opinion is based on what facts exactly?

Re: Sergey Brin invests in synthetic beef

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"don't bully people into your ethics" is itself an ethic, which you are yourself attempting to get the parent to conform to.

It's more of a social courtesy akin to not prosthelytizing or shilling commercial products. HN is not a very good place for those kinds of things, nor is it a good place to tell people they're not emoting correctly in a bid to bully them into caring about factory farming.

Fair enough. I don't think the parent will be particularly effective, either.
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