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Re: Make DuckDuckGo your Chrome default search engine

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You should read their privacy policy: https://duckduckgo.com/privacy#s5

"Also, like anyone else, we will comply with court ordered legal requests. However, in our case, we don't expect any because there is nothing useful to give them since we don't collect any personal information." Yes, until the NSA requests that DDG allow them to see all searches in real time. You could argue that it says "court ordered" but no one here has any clue what type of pressure the government used to get PRI…

Then the NSA only has to save these searches somewhere in place of DDG - we end up with the same result.

Re: Make DuckDuckGo your Chrome default search engine

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Here's a full list of what data is sent back to google: http://lifehacker.com/5763452/what-data-does-chrome-send-to-... Do the autocomplete results still go to google? If so, then enabling DDG on chrome is indeed fruitless.

Just as an FYI, new versions of chrome also sends back the full URL and the hash of any file you download or save. I bumped across this when I was trying to download light table and it din't let me open it. After a bit of research I found file scanning to be the new addition to chrome's malware checks. With all the NSA debacle going on now, I am feeling even more paranoid. I love chrome but I will be switching to Fir…

I cannot say enough good things about Firefox Aurora. I've been using it as my primary browser for a few months now, it's awesome.

Re: Make DuckDuckGo your Chrome default search engine

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...and you trust Chrome? Not even Chromium, but... Chrome. Google makes Chrome, you know.

Yes, I trust that Google has not shipped a binary modification to their open source software to track search terms, which would be (a) illegal, (b) easily detectable enough that someone would notice it eventually, and (c) pointless, since they're already getting the vast majority of users' search terms legitimately. Then again, I work for them, but I would have said the same thing a month ago...

How would it be easily detectable?

Re: Make DuckDuckGo your Chrome default search engine

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Here's a full list of what data is sent back to google: http://lifehacker.com/5763452/what-data-does-chrome-send-to-... Do the autocomplete results still go to google? If so, then enabling DDG on chrome is indeed fruitless.

Just as an FYI, new versions of chrome also sends back the full URL and the hash of any file you download or save. I bumped across this when I was trying to download light table and it din't let me open it. After a bit of research I found file scanning to be the new addition to chrome's malware checks. With all the NSA debacle going on now, I am feeling even more paranoid. I love chrome but I will be switching to Fir…

I've always used Chromium, but I'm also planning on switching to Firefox soon.

Also, IE10? You don't trust Google but you trust Microsoft?

Re: Make DuckDuckGo your Chrome default search engine

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It's more than "slightly different". By all means, try and replicate this complete list in your Chrome browser: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html . I'll wait... What makes the DDG !bang system awesome is its enormity. You don't look up what !bang to use to search something. You assume it exists, do it, and 99% of the time, you're right. That's a game changer. I don't write Perl, but I know !cpan exists. I don't even h…

What makes the DDG !bang system awesome is its enormity. Please don't tell me it's evil. I believe you meant "scope", "scale", or "size".

>Please don't tell me it's evil.

I am a little confused by your comment - has the word "enormous" come to mean "evil"? If so, maybe this new came about from people referring to the "enormity of a crime". It seems to have followed a similar etymological evolution to the word "gross" as in "gross depravity". But both words just mean "big".

Re: Make DuckDuckGo your Chrome default search engine

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Chrome (or Chromium, if you prefer to have someone else run your builds) is open source. It's subject to inspection. It's got some known privacy issues (e.g., safe-browsing mode sends a file URL and hash which is stored with your IP for two weeks, then your IP is stripped). But if there's anything really untoward going on and people learn about it, it's going to look extremely bad for Google. While I wouldn't say tha…

So basically it's got known privacy problems, requires trust of Google and you're winging it. Lets also add that Chrome!=Chromium. Chrome is based on Chromium. Not all of it is open and it is not compiled in the public eye. No thanks.

So basically it's got known privacy problems

Most of which can be addressed. There's also a UUID in each build. Privoxy can remove that AFAIU. I don't use Chrome myself, but Chromium.

As I said: you're arguing in the absence of evidence on a pretty widely available and analyzed application. Rather than simply throwing out hypotheticals, a more interesting exercise would be to do some research of posted information to see if there are known issues. Might even make for an interesting HN submission.

I might do that myself.

Re: Make DuckDuckGo your Chrome default search engine

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What makes the DDG !bang system awesome is its enormity. Please don't tell me it's evil. I believe you meant "scope", "scale", or "size".

>Please don't tell me it's evil. I am a little confused by your comment - has the word "enormous" come to mean "evil"? If so, maybe this new came about from people referring to the "enormity of a crime". It seems to have followed a similar etymological evolution to the word "gross" as in "gross depravity". But both words just mean "big".

The word "enormity" means generally "evil": The state or quality of exceeding a measure or rule, or of being immoderate, monstrous, or outrageous. (1913 Webster).

It's not a general synonym for "enormous" or "having vast size", except by confusion.

Re: Make DuckDuckGo your Chrome default search engine

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"^L g search" and you're searching Google. I've had DDG as my default search engine. It's been a bit rocky. I've left it in place out of privacy preferences, and used it occasionally, but had actually started getting used to the google search method above. I'm consciously reverting to using DDG more (it's getting better). Why? Because my privacy and rights do matter to me. I've still got Google literally a keystroke…

> And DDG's TTY mode is pretty awesome: https://duckduckgo.com/tty/ How does one find this kind of hidden features? I haven't seen it advertised anywhere except on HN.

HN among others.

I filed a bug about poor integration of DDG with w3m (a console-mode browser) based on default placement of the search button in the tab order. I received a response within the day pointing me at the lite interface: https://duckduckgo.com/lite

... which works perfectly.

That said: these do tend to be somewhat hidden, and I didn't find them through the "Goodies" or "Settings" DDG pages just now. Hrm.

Re: Make DuckDuckGo your Chrome default search engine

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The only thing stopping me from making this switch is that doing arithmetic in the url bar stops working... I use that quite a bit. Is this some deep integration with chrome or can it be made to work with ddg as well?

This work only if you have search autosuggest on, which basically send everything you type in the address bar (includeing urls) to google.
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