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Re: A Personal API

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It was on HN[0] a few months ago that they don't give you access to minute by minute data, only daily totals. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5001301

Ah; FYI the API now supports Intraday Time Series fetching. See https://wiki.fitbit.com/display/API/API-Get-Intraday-Time-Se... for more information. You can retrieve data in 1 min or 15 min increments.

you still cannot get access to the raw data or data in real time.

Re: A Personal API

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> Imagine if the wealth of data collected about you all went to one place, and, most importantly, was controlled by you. Imagine if Company X had to pay you to know about your Amazon spending habits instead of paying Amazon. Even more than Project VRM linked above, this is precisely the eventual goal of Tent: https://tent.io/ That said, I'm skeptical of these projects', or anyone's, ability to achieve this utopia. Wh…

Why would Amazon or Google adopt such a system I could imagine laws requiring that personal data be controlled by the subjects. it would likely be difficult to use, insecure... Who says? How can you assume this? and offer no clear benefits Some would consider the ability to keep your information private at will a benefit. Others would consider the ability to sell said information a benefit. the lack of scale would ma…

Look, I'm not saying don't go for this idea. I'd love to see you try it. My doubts shouldn't get in your way. Code it up.

As for why it would be difficult to use and insecure? I'm guessing most of the people you hang out with are probably geeks. For perspective, take a look at this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ

Imagine each one of those people in the video has a personal data store that contains their complete medical history, right alongside all their Google searches, Amazon purchases and tweets.

How secure of a password do you think they picked?

How hard would it be to trick them with a phishing attack?

How much do you think they even know how to do with it in the first place?

Re: A Personal API

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[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph ? Can you explain more for us layfolk?

Yes, An s-expression is a tree. Imagine that you want to know the average score of a list of films like: (average listOfFilms) and someone else like the same average for the same list. You will end up with two trees that indeed are the same and can be calculated only once. A DAG is a way to represent dependencies, so if two cells are linked to the same cell (average listOfFilm).

One last clarification: not all trees can be converted to a DAG. There cannot be circular references.

Re: A Personal API

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post #112

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Why would Amazon or Google adopt such a system I could imagine laws requiring that personal data be controlled by the subjects. it would likely be difficult to use, insecure... Who says? How can you assume this? and offer no clear benefits Some would consider the ability to keep your information private at will a benefit. Others would consider the ability to sell said information a benefit. the lack of scale would ma…

Look, I'm not saying don't go for this idea. I'd love to see you try it. My doubts shouldn't get in your way. Code it up. As for why it would be difficult to use and insecure? I'm guessing most of the people you hang out with are probably geeks. For perspective, take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ Imagine each one of those people in the video has a personal data store that contains…

The questions you pose also apply to centralized services in exactly the same way. There is no reason that personal clouds would be any less secure than centralized services are today. [1]

Even though some people are confused about the difference between browsers and search-engines doesn't mean they don't know how to use either. You'd probably have got the same response if you'd asked about the difference between the Web and Internet. Or any other complex system they don't have deal with day-to-day (internal combustion engine, electricity transmission, etc)

[1] edit: think of things like mass-assignment issue with rails and github or the recent facebook exploit that was posted. Centralized services are just as much of a honey-pot as a personal cloud might be.

Re: A Personal API

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Look, I'm not saying don't go for this idea. I'd love to see you try it. My doubts shouldn't get in your way. Code it up. As for why it would be difficult to use and insecure? I'm guessing most of the people you hang out with are probably geeks. For perspective, take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ Imagine each one of those people in the video has a personal data store that contains…

The questions you pose also apply to centralized services in exactly the same way. There is no reason that personal clouds would be any less secure than centralized services are today. [1] Even though some people are confused about the difference between browsers and search-engines doesn't mean they don't know how to use either. You'd probably have got the same response if you'd asked about the difference between the…

No one who steals your Facebook password can get into anything as serious as your entire medical history. The proposal is dangerous precisely because it's centralized — in the sense of centralizing all different types of data on a particular individual. It also, as a side effect of giving the user more control, would give the user more to lose if their account is compromised. Again, with no clear gain for most people.

Re: A Personal API

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The questions you pose also apply to centralized services in exactly the same way. There is no reason that personal clouds would be any less secure than centralized services are today. [1] Even though some people are confused about the difference between browsers and search-engines doesn't mean they don't know how to use either. You'd probably have got the same response if you'd asked about the difference between the…

No one who steals your Facebook password can get into anything as serious as your entire medical history. The proposal is dangerous precisely because it's centralized — in the sense of centralizing all different types of data on a particular individual. It also, as a side effect of giving the user more control, would give the user more to lose if their account is compromised. Again, with no clear gain for most people…

I feel we're just going to disagree over this but it's probably because neither of us has clearly stated the threat models we're dealing with. Also, it's somewhat hyperbolic to claim that such proposals are 'dangerous'. I could claim the same about the current situation where more and more personal data is handed over to companies, almost by default.

Re: A Personal API

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My first thought was "this is about as narcissist as you can get". But, it's still pretty damn cool. Nice job.

Interesting take. I looked at it almost the opposite way: "You are turning yourself into a set of numbers that has no identity outside of those numbers." Certainly if this were to be a thing (a la online charts or Microsoft Health) it would have that end result.
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