Why Anti-Authoritarians are Diagnosed as Mentally Ill (2012)

Post by chris_mahan » Wed, May 08, 2013, 8:18 PM UTC

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It is sad that the sort of bigoted opinions you're espousing here are what us firearms enthusiasts have to endure. It has nothing to do with machismo, nothing to do with Obama, and nothing to do with birther garbage. The right to bear arms is a right of last resort. Its the right that protects all others and, as such, it is the _most_ essential right. As for naming incidents in the last 100 years where armed resistan…

An issue facing firearm enthusiasts is that the most vocal (or at least the ones getting the most press) are in those camps. It's the same problem that faces many other groups, the extremists and zealots are the loudest and the ones people outside the group see. Any reasonable voice gets drowned out. > The right to bear arms is a right of last resort. Its the right that protects all others and, as such, it is the _mo…

Post by sp332 » Wed, May 08, 2013, 8:18 PM UTC

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This reminds me of a poem my favorite Math professor used to share, about a little boy who was always instructed exactly how to draw a picture of a flower: http://home.bresnan.net/~cabreras/theboy.htm

This "poem" is depressing. Off topic: It's never made sense to me why people call things that don't rhyme "poems." As far as I'm concerned, this is an essay, not a poem.

Post by ucee054 » Wed, May 08, 2013, 8:19 PM UTC

thecoffman wrote: post #82

6cxs2hd6 wrote: post #76

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Well the 2nd amendment was written in a time of muskets and militias. If the spirit/intent were fully what some people say, why don't we each have a 2nd amendment right to an attack helicopter, nukes, chems, bios, and UAVs? (Because assault rifles instead of muskets doesn't add much to the equation.) Since that would be clearly insane, reductio ad absurdum. Right?

I think you would find that there are a subset of people, myself included, that don't find that notion so insane. If you accept the idea that the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to allow the citizenry to overthrow their government then having the government restrict what citizens can and cannot purchase is somewhat nonsensical. Historically speaking, government restriction on firearm ownership is a relatively new thi…

Post by ucee054 » Wed, May 08, 2013, 8:29 PM UTC

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Okay, so let's go down that line a little bit more. In a species (alongside a whole host of other species) that depended on rape for survival, how is an inability to rape not a mental illness? [1] In a species that depended on rigidly defined gender roles of women child rearing and men being hunters, how is aberrant behavior not a mental illness? I think what's happening is you're falling prey to appeal to nature fal…

The rape analogy is misplaced because humans, unlike say ducks, do not primarily reproduce through rape. Also, appeal to nature fallacy is not applicable because I'm not making a "good" versus "bad" conclusion. I'm thinking of "mental illness" in terms of whether it's an evolutionary mal-adaptation, not in moral terms. And while it is true that loners, outliers, and dropouts often contribute great value to society, i…

Post by dkuntz2 » Wed, May 08, 2013, 8:44 PM UTC

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When's the last time you give your child alcohol?

If you really cared about your teen with low self esteem, you would buy them a round at the bar. Why don't you love them?