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Civil Liberties Groups Speak Out Against CISPA in Lead Up to Hearings

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I guess, if I was going to put my CISPA-advocate hat on, which I don't like because it is an ugly hat that I think my cat peed on, I would say this: It is already possible for service providers to do the things CISPA enables them to do. However, under current regulations, it is legally risky for them to do it. Some of what they do incurs legal risk. Some of the legal risks mean that whole companies in some verticals…

Do you think that EFF vs AT&T would have been easier to dismiss, post-CISPA?

No. What part of AT&T's defense involved operational network security? For whatever it's worth: AT&T's complicity in NSA monitoring of overseas traffic involving American citizens was despicable.

Re: Civil Liberties Groups Speak Out Against CISPA in Lead Up to Hearings

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He isn't saying CISPA should be opposed, but rather, additional specific legislation to protect individual's data from being retrieved by the government without due process.

But that is already unlawful.

I think the recent thread about how people can be compelled to keep searches and confiscations secret makes my point sufficiently clear. I think by "due process" you mean "according the law". By "due process", I mean in a very fair, transparent, limited and well-defined way.

edit: Specifically, this is a precedent that is a big step in the right direction for this kind of thing, IMO: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5382891

Re: Civil Liberties Groups Speak Out Against CISPA in Lead Up to Hearings

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think that EFF vs AT&T would have been easier to dismiss, post-CISPA?

No. What part of AT&T's defense involved operational network security? For whatever it's worth: AT&T's complicity in NSA monitoring of overseas traffic involving American citizens was despicable.

I'm not sure if you are still watching this thread, but EFF posted a blog article today that covers where I was going with that thought:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/03/consequences-cispas-br...

I don't share their concerns about the "hack back" thing. It's hard to take that seriously.

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