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Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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There is an unfortunate tendency in the creative field (design, music etc) to think of ones ideas as unique and that others are stealing them.

I never understood why people don't just embrace the idea of imitation being the biggest form of flattery.

So you are doing something right, great continue with that.

LayerVault lost me as a customer today.

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

#112
Did LayerVault try to contact Flat UI to discuss their grievances before sending a DMCA Takedown? If so, what was the result of that conversation. If not, why didn't LayerVault pursue that path before posting this to Github?

We in tech need to be good to each other because other corporate interests and patent trolls won't be. We should always give each other the benefit of the doubt and try to resolve issues without menacing legal language and the threat of lawyers. We need to show we can thrive without this garbage. Otherwise, it will only embolden our enemies and cause this type of confrontation to happen more frequently in the future - to everyone's detriment.

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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So, both sides have pretty much spoken, and what irks me the most is that the LayerVault guys haven't provided any concrete evidence to support their claims; they've posted vague responses and joked about DMCA'ing their friends on Twitter. There's also the question of why they would even pursue something like this. A simple Risks/Benefits analysis would've surely led most people not to issue a DMCA over a few icons t…

I could understand a DMCA if the icons were direct copies and if FlatUI had not responded to any email requests. Even then it's a good idea to put up a quick and easy comparison sheet. But for things like "3 cogs" (cogs are different sizes, different colours, different numbers of teeth, different orientation) it's ridiculous to DMCA it. 3 Cogs is so generic that it's an annoyance to engineers. (Because the cogs are u…

> HN is generally pretty good when people rip off a design.

Remember Svbtle?

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

#114
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could understand a DMCA if the icons were direct copies and if FlatUI had not responded to any email requests. Even then it's a good idea to put up a quick and easy comparison sheet. But for things like "3 cogs" (cogs are different sizes, different colours, different numbers of teeth, different orientation) it's ridiculous to DMCA it. 3 Cogs is so generic that it's an annoyance to engineers. (Because the cogs are u…

> HN is generally pretty good when people rip off a design. Remember Svbtle?

I don't. Can you explain?

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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post #109

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No, in a DMCA notice you state under penalty of perjury that you are the rights holder for the content you want removed, not your own content.

Sure, but if LV can argue it owns the rights to a similar-looking "ripoff", then another icon project can claim likewise in respect to them. Got a newspaper icon, or a stylized human emoting something? That's enough, apparently.

You can do that, but you perjure yourself in the process, and won't take it down permanently. I could take down Rails by filing a bogus DCMA, but I'd have a lawsuit on my hands if Rails decided to pursue it

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

#116
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You can lose your rights if you don't protect them. Given this, businesses pretty much have to protect their work, or they'll run into bigger problems later.

That only applies to trademark, not copyright.

If you'll indulge a little contextual Show HN, I made a single-page site that lays out the differences between the three major IP law domains: http://iplaws.info

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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I have never seen the inside of LayerVault. The demo page only has vague outlines of similar controls. Does anyone have screenshots of LayerVault in action?

All I could find. http://i.imgur.com/yFHlGVH.png http://i.imgur.com/VX1h4Xj.png http://i.imgur.com/oyAYDM8.png http://i.imgur.com/ZUlf0hF.png http://i.imgur.com/QMSTZ8k.png Given that they don't show it off on their demo page, it's either incomplete or clunky.

Uh, is that a direct copy of the iOS "share" icon?

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

#119
post #17

I think these are the icons in question from LayerVault, DesignMode, and similar icons from Noun Project. http://imgur.com/IH1osAD

Thanks for posting this--I hadn't seen the side by side comparison. If this is what's being claimed as 'copies' of their artwork, then it's clearly an empty claim. The Flat UI icons look better, to my taste.

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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post #110
post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, in a DMCA notice you state under penalty of perjury that you are the rights holder for the content you want removed, not your own content.

Sure, but if LV can argue it owns the rights to a similar-looking "ripoff", then another icon project can claim likewise in respect to them. Got a newspaper icon, or a stylized human emoting something? That's enough, apparently.

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems that the consensus here is that LV isn't allowed to assert that they own the rights, and therefore may be perjuring themselves.
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