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Re: HipChat releases native app for Mac

#111
One thing I just noticed is that the native app uses a LOT less memory than the AIR client: 43 MB native vs 100-150 MB air. It definitely feels snappier too, from startup time to normal usage. Even with the limitations (no local Find functionality?!) I'm still very happy with this beta. I'm sure they will continue to improve.

Re: HipChat releases native app for Mac

#112
post #19

I know people are happy as the infamous GIF bug is fixed, but seriously this is one of the worst 'beta' apps I have tried. This mac app has been in development for ages, then been in closed beta and now finally it's available to everyone to try. Our team just switched to the beta native app, and already found several critical bugs with the app within minutes. Sorry guys, this is really poorly put together and the num…

The app actually crashes each time I try to open it. You're very right, this is a terrible beta version.

Re: HipChat releases native app for Mac

#113
post #19

I know people are happy as the infamous GIF bug is fixed, but seriously this is one of the worst 'beta' apps I have tried. This mac app has been in development for ages, then been in closed beta and now finally it's available to everyone to try. Our team just switched to the beta native app, and already found several critical bugs with the app within minutes. Sorry guys, this is really poorly put together and the num…

The app actually crashes each time I try to open it. You're very right, this is a terrible beta version.

Re: HipChat releases native app for Mac

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post #62

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I used it for five minutes and found: There is no way to search for a person in the Lobby and you can't reorder the tabs. These are two things I do a lot.

Interestingly the first thing I did was re-order the tabs. Now I went back to check and I can't re-order them. Maybe that info helps the Hipchat devs out - I just trashed prefs and then you can re-order one tab. Then it stops allowing you to do this.

I had the same experience.

Re: HipChat releases native app for Mac

#115
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You have the notification goto the room for the relavent Team/Project. Then only people who are in those rooms (even when offline!) get those notifications.

As I said, I work on about 8 codebases concurrently (shared across just two or three projects). I can't have 8 chat rooms open, that's just silly. Every time I want to find a window I will have to cycle through them.

"I can't have 8 chat rooms open, that's just silly"

Why is that silly? Why would messages about all 8 projects be going into the same space? Shouldn't they be separated? That's exactly how we filter out all the different messages. And Hipchat has shortcuts to switch between different rooms, and highlights rooms that have new messages. Works pretty well, from my experience.

Re: HipChat releases native app for Mac

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I said, I work on about 8 codebases concurrently (shared across just two or three projects). I can't have 8 chat rooms open, that's just silly. Every time I want to find a window I will have to cycle through them.

"I can't have 8 chat rooms open, that's just silly" Why is that silly? Why would messages about all 8 projects be going into the same space? Shouldn't they be separated? That's exactly how we filter out all the different messages. And Hipchat has shortcuts to switch between different rooms, and highlights rooms that have new messages. Works pretty well, from my experience.

Do you have your email program open with 8 different mailboxes, one for each project you want to receive communications about? I doubt you do.

Notifications like these are conceptually a queue of stuff that requires your attention. There is no point in separate notifications into multiple queues, they are all equally important. If project A is throwing a fit, it doesn't matter if I'm currently working on project B, it needs my attention.

I don't know Hipchat, but with Campfire and Propane, each chat is designed to be in a separate window/tab. If you bury the room behind a kind of modal selector (as seems to be the case, there's a sidebar with each room?), that's really no better. After all, if I've focused project A and project B starts blinking, I need to switch there. That's an unnecessary switch when all I want is a queue of items to read. (And no, email is way too heavy for this, and I don't want it interleaved with my regular email. We used to use email, those were bad times.)

It's not unusual for all projects to have incidents during a day, whether it be deployment information, exceptions or monitoring alerts.

Re: HipChat releases native app for Mac

#117
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post #19

I know people are happy as the infamous GIF bug is fixed, but seriously this is one of the worst 'beta' apps I have tried. This mac app has been in development for ages, then been in closed beta and now finally it's available to everyone to try. Our team just switched to the beta native app, and already found several critical bugs with the app within minutes. Sorry guys, this is really poorly put together and the num…

Philosophical question: Is it really a bad "beta", or has your preconceived notion on what a "beta" should be been radically altered by the sheer number of startups that throw the word around now? Gmail was in "beta" for about a million years, and was incredibly stable for most of that. I think it has become the allegorical metric these days. But I remember back in the late 90's and early 2000's when making the choic…

I'd agree in principle, but did the email announcement might have been a bit more toned down if that was what they were thinking. I'm pretty sure they wanted some buzz.

Re: HipChat releases native app for Mac

#119

Guys, seriously. Cmd+W should close a window , not a tab. Your app is the only app on my entire system that acts like this, and it it annoying as hell.

Seriously? Every tabbed app I have responds this way. Safari, Chrome, MacVim, TextMate, iTerm 2, all off the top of my head.

Re: HipChat releases native app for Mac

#120

Guys, seriously. Cmd+W should close a window , not a tab. Your app is the only app on my entire system that acts like this, and it it annoying as hell.

I haven't used this app, but in every other app I use Cmd+W closes a tab, while Cmd+Shift+W closes a window.
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