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The Web Is Becoming Smalltalk

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Re: The Web Is Becoming Smalltalk

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Clamato, also from Avi Bryant, is an interesting approach to in browser development: https://bitbucket.org/avibryant/clamato/wiki/Home

Clamato has been superseded by Amber: http://amber-lang.net/ In particular, check out the tutorial page (Smalltalk in a browser!): http://amber-lang.net/learn.html

Oh, very nice, thanks!

Re: The Web Is Becoming Smalltalk

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PHP has nothing to do with the browser (i.e. the "platform you download software into"). If you don't like programming in PHP, then pick a different server side language instead. Even JavaScript can mostly be avoided, if you want, by using one of the higher level languages that compiles down to JavaScript.

My objections don't start (or end) with PHP. Browsers are terrible platforms, and the protocols we have to deal with are likewise terrible (ever written an HTTP proxy? Oh boy).

> (ever written an HTTP proxy? Oh boy)

Oh yeah, and it's not fairly hard. After all, it's a well defined, text-based protocol. It's sweet to implement if you're not using C. That is, before you started supporting persistent connections or interacting with the content.

In any case, it's loads better than FTP and SMTP (at least HTTP spelled things completely), and loads easier to use than binary protocols.

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