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So you think you can tell Arial from Helvetica?

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Re: So you think you can tell Arial from Helvetica?

#111

Thank you, now you have ruined Arial for me. Before this test I considered the differences negligible, without really knowing what the differences are. Now I consider Helvetica much more elegant and incisive.

Maybe it is more elegant, but if you don't want cross browser, cross platform rendering issues you'll stick with Arial.

Re: So you think you can tell Arial from Helvetica?

#113
post #111

Thank you, now you have ruined Arial for me. Before this test I considered the differences negligible, without really knowing what the differences are. Now I consider Helvetica much more elegant and incisive.

Maybe it is more elegant, but if you don't want cross browser, cross platform rendering issues you'll stick with Arial.

No, you should stick with verdana. It's fully cross-platform, designed from the start to be a screen font, and generally looks better.

Alternatively, @font-face is supported by just about everything at this point, opening up the opportunity to use much better fonts, like open sans

(also, helvetica is a print font. It doesn't work for body copy at the sizes commonly used for screen text.)

Re: So you think you can tell Arial from Helvetica?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it gives the text a different character on a macro level.

I believe that is what he's trying to say. You don't use Arial because it terminates at right angles, you use it because it feels different.

You use it because it's the only option you have under Windows.

Re: So you think you can tell Arial from Helvetica?

#116
post #111

Thank you, now you have ruined Arial for me. Before this test I considered the differences negligible, without really knowing what the differences are. Now I consider Helvetica much more elegant and incisive.

Maybe it is more elegant, but if you don't want cross browser, cross platform rendering issues you'll stick with Arial.

No, just put sans-serif. Windows users get arial, os x users get helvetica, Linux users get whatever. Everybody wins.

Re: So you think you can tell Arial from Helvetica?

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I really don't consider myself a typography expert or designer, but I found that easy and got a perfect score. There are obvious tells in almost all of them -- mostly lowercase "s", "c", etc, in which Helvetica is has perfectly level edges and arial is angled. The only harder ones are some of the all caps examples like TOYOTA.

Agree that lower case is trivial due to the level terminal edges in Helvetica. For uppercase, the tip offs are the following: * The capital A in Helvetica is narrower (more isoceles and less equilateral) * The capital G has an extra hatch on the right side (looks like an arrow and not an L) * The capital R does not have a straight leg in Helvetica * Conversely, arial chooses a non-straight hatch mark for the Q wherea…

The perfectly round Os in toyota are the giveaways. I got them all correctly, except for MATTEL for which the only difference is the stroke width; and which I ended up flipping a coin for (incorrectly).

That said, I did get a degree in graphic design, so I may not be typical when it comes to this.

Re: So you think you can tell Arial from Helvetica?

#120

Here's something interesting to do with the same test. Instead of guessing which one you think is Helvetica, choose the one you like better. Then see if Helvetica shows up more times than Arial (or vice versa).

Great idea! Personally I had no bias towards either font, but now discovered that I do in fact like Helvetica a bit more (12 out of 20 times). Would be interesting to be able to see a test like that with statistics on how many chose each font for each logo.
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