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#113
This may be a situation where revealing a solution may end up harming it. For those who use iOS and other Apple OSes, I learned of this recently released free Safari extension called Litterbox that allows looking at one post on x.com.

[1]: https://andadinosaur.com/launch-litterbox

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#114
post #95

This to me is a big issue. You have politicians, government entities and other public institutions posting to twitter, but to access we need to log in. There needs to be a free, non-ad, non-login environment people can use to access this information posted by public entities. This comment also applies to facebook too, which I think is even worse than twitter.

but how to do that without protecting the content from enemy LLM companies scraping?

On the off chance someone thinks this is serious, being locked behind a login doesn't prevent your site from being scraped.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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post #109

Thanks Elon, now we know that scraping is illegal! Very good to clarify that for future proceedings against the AI thieves.

It’s the rehosting of the content not the scraping Edit: not a moral stance

That is what all LLMs could do in 2023, verbatim, before they trained it out of them in order to keep up the pretense that there is no plagiarism. Now they all obfuscate the original or refuse to cite.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#116

Are there other instances available? X can't ban them all. I wish legal issues wouldn’t exist for this project and X would stop attacking projects that provide information for free. Privacy is important more than ever as many of us don't want to login into X.

There's plenty of other instances running on nitter, some secret/invite only (and as such more chance to fly under the radar). The code is open source: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter albeit X DMCA'd the repo.

> X DMCA'd the repo.

No they didn't, or you'd see the text "Repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown." and wouldn't have access to the repo at all. Instead you have full access to it, its author having merely archived it out of caution.

No reference to nitter in https://github.com/github/dmca/

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#117
post #94

Web version of Twitter has become unusable now. So much so that I wonder why they still keep it.

The whole point of butchered websites is to direct people to install their more invasive app. It's not like all companies just got bad at making websites somehow. There are conflicting incentives.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#118
post #109

Thanks Elon, now we know that scraping is illegal! Very good to clarify that for future proceedings against the AI thieves.

It’s the rehosting of the content not the scraping Edit: not a moral stance

Grok can do that if you give it an HN thread or other websites.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but how to do that without protecting the content from enemy LLM companies scraping?

On the off chance someone thinks this is serious, being locked behind a login doesn't prevent your site from being scraped.

Indeed, the shitter authors recommended you buy a bundle of Twitter accounts with 2FA details when setting up your own instance, to avoid getting rate-limited.

There are millions of accounts for sale, roughly $0.10 per account.

https://hstockplus.com/accounts/twitter-x-accounts?sortBy=pr...

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#120
post #99

Maybe instead of trying to get rid of services that provide a more convenient access to X to non-logged-in users, they should realize that there is a real market behind these services - users that will likely never sign up to X, but who want to read/watch some content without the incessant nagging and limitations that X subjects non-logged-in users to?

> users that will likely never sign up to X, but who want to read/watch some content

They probably don't want their echo chamber leaking to the wider internet, because external discussion of the content would reveal it for the siloed thought bubble that it is.

Consider X now requires personal information to sign up, and after handing that info over, signups are often still rejected with no explanation given. Yet another tell they're very interested in maintaining that echo chamber.

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