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Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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I remain an irreductible fan of the one-hand theory, and therefore stick with an iPhone 13 mini. I might be late at the folding-phone revolution. Alas it seems we won't see any such phone that fits in a pant's pocket and that can be operated single-handedly. I am afraid that the 13 mini is the last of its kind. Yet many reports of people dropping their gigantic phones. Maybe that's a business model after all.

I love my iphone SE (all gens)

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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post #18

I picked up a Z Fold 8 for a test device, in order to optimize my app for folding phones (also in anticipation of Apple's folding phone), and the squat form factor really seems like something out of the future (certainly something different), I like it way more than I thought I would, the front is convenient for a lot of quick scrolling, checking things, and the wide 4:3 inner screen is really great for content viewi…

This is a square screen BB KB style Android phone: https://www.unihertz.com/products/titan-2-elite

Nice looking phone im seriously interested in but they don't say what US carriers I'd be able to use anywhere I could find which seems odd with the off the shelf chipset.

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

#113

I remain an irreductible fan of the one-hand theory, and therefore stick with an iPhone 13 mini. I might be late at the folding-phone revolution. Alas it seems we won't see any such phone that fits in a pant's pocket and that can be operated single-handedly. I am afraid that the 13 mini is the last of its kind. Yet many reports of people dropping their gigantic phones. Maybe that's a business model after all.

Samsung is testing the water with their new passport-size fold phone. Looklike enough people demanded for smaller size phone.

Granted it is still considerably bigger than ip13mini, but it's step in right diretion

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure they could've provided a solution, but they didn't create the problem. And they're not a charity. It's like blaming Nvidia for not giving away CUDA for free/cheap. Btw everyone knows whether they're using iMessage or SMS, that's the whole bubble color thing.

> Btw everyone knows whether they're using iMessage or SMS, that's the whole bubble color thing. Everyone sorta knows, but because iMessage "feels" like it's just the native messaging app on the phone, it makes people feel like the issue is android (why don't android phones come with this super-sms built in?) rather than apple for not making the app available broadly. If it were a separate app, then perhaps the EU wo…

I get if you want it that way with all social apps being cross-platform, but Apple didn't make the rules. And if it were like that, they'd probably not have invested so much in iMessage, and SMS would be the thing, which would at least be cross-platform.

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

#115

The crease makes it look cheap and fragile, like with many of the foldable phones. I'm curious what people need the huge screens for on phones? Is it mostly for watching videos?

What a strange question. I guess we no longer need monitors because a phone display is all anyone should need? Why do I need two devices when one would do? I get we are not there yet but I can certainly imagine having just one device and virtual displays in my glasses / contacts. Those displays will not be phone sized Also, bad eye site, large fonts, suck in small screens

Well, the way I use a device with a monitor is a different kind of UX though. Usually it involves a keyboard and mouse, not a touch screen, and I can do certain things better through that kind of input. For that reason I personally like having different devices that are specific to different use cases, as I can express myself better then through the mechanical intuition that I have built up, instead of shoehorning one generic way to do everything. Phones I mostly use to quickly check things such as news, sometimes to watch videos, and messaging/calling, I don't need a large screen for that because at some point it compromises my ability to hold and operate the phone with one hand. Having a virtual environment that responds to your body/hands of course allows you to emulate all types of things, when it gets to that point I think I agree that having one device is the future.

Bad eye sight is a good one, but I don't think it explains the popularity of large screens fully, are there really so many with bad eye sight to the point that they need a larger screen?

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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post #25

> trapped in a shape everyone else seems to be moving on from. Really not sure if we were ever there. Foldable phones still feel like a novelty that is expensive and fragile, among other tradeoffs. Also moving on to what, exactly? The regular slate form factor is what people buy, and have been for years at this point.

Folding phones aren't going away; they're becoming more mainstream. The initial versions of folding phones that came out five or six years ago had issues and some aspects that weren't addressed. But we are literally in the sixth or seventh generation of folding phones, and Samsung has basically perfected them. If you think the durability is bad, think again, because they are very, very durable. I use a Z Fold 6, and…

I can believe this for Samsung, but Google's hardware is as crappy as one would expect.

I had a Pixel 9 Pro Fold, and within half a year it developed some issue probably related to the sensor that tells it which screen should be turned on, and the screen would randomly stay black.

At least Google replaced it with the newer generation model for free, which I then sold.

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

#118

I remain an irreductible fan of the one-hand theory, and therefore stick with an iPhone 13 mini. I might be late at the folding-phone revolution. Alas it seems we won't see any such phone that fits in a pant's pocket and that can be operated single-handedly. I am afraid that the 13 mini is the last of its kind. Yet many reports of people dropping their gigantic phones. Maybe that's a business model after all.

I had the 12 mini (before it I had an iPhone SE, then iPhone X, then the 12 mini), which unfortunately did not work for me because the battery drained too fast.

Really hope you're wrong and we do eventually get some more one-handed phones in the future, especially once battery tech evolves.

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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The crease makes it look cheap and fragile, like with many of the foldable phones. I'm curious what people need the huge screens for on phones? Is it mostly for watching videos?

Makes it easier to use enterprisey management console type UIs on the go. Also nice for reading large diffs.

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

#120

The crease makes it look cheap and fragile, like with many of the foldable phones. I'm curious what people need the huge screens for on phones? Is it mostly for watching videos?

When you open it, it becomes a tablet not a phone. And therein lays your answer.

That might explain my naivety here, I've never really gotten into using tablets for anything.
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