So she previously worked in Meta, then OpenAI, I guess the next reasonable choice for her would be Antropic
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Imagine how bad it must be when you go from Meta to OpenAI and nope out of the latter.
Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining
#113IME companies hire an ethics team to say they have an ethics team. The ethics team has no sway, no influence, and will never be able to move the business. They will try, and they will make reasonable recommendations, but the company will say, "that costs money..." and not take them.
If you ever feel like your job is useless, remember that raytheon has an ethics team.
Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining
#114I have the impression that these positions are often there for publicity reasons and the people don’t have real power, in the end business interest will override most ethics concerns. Guess that can be frustrating, also she probably earned enough to have a comfortable life even if she never works again so she might have figured that there’s something else she can do with her life instead of being a figurehead for a bunch of dickheads.
Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope. Rents cannot (at meaningful scale) exceed local productivity, or else there will be widespread vacancies and landlords will reduce their rents. Rents cannot (at meaningful scale) fall below local productivity, or else landlords will simply raise their rents. Go talk to a landlord about how they site prices. Step 1. Look up income of your target demographic Step 2. Eat 30% of their income Can you show me a place…
> Can you show me a place with high local productivity and low rent? Put the following prompt into your favourite AI and enjoy the reading: "How do rents relate to productivity in the area? How does Vienna compare to San Francisco?"
Vienna? World famous for publicly-funded housing construction?
Try this one: "Create a simple analysis approximating how much higher rents would be in Vienna if not for the aggressive public subsidization of supply"
In any case, Vienna has a good system! But it's not that it avoids high productivity → high rent, it's that it splits rent into subsidy costs and rent.
In other words, the amount of subsidy + rent required will grow with local productivity.
Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining
#116> The departure was first reported by the Financial Times [...] According to Business Insider, OpenAI has reorganised its safety, product and research teams numerous times [...] Chloé told IE Insights, a social media channel of the Spanish IE University, in March [...] A June article from The Economist highlights that [...]
Not a single link to any of those. That's just rude.
Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining
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How do I get on this gravy train
Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
So more of an ethicist-for-pay than for the challenge of it.
Any ethicist for a corporation is clearly a PR move, right? Like, a pure researcher for a corporation might have some genuine overlap and shared interests where breakthroughs in the research benefit both parties, but an ethicist?? For a legal construct that's defined by and bound to sociopathically pursue profit? Come on now.
It depends on the kind of company, and the context. An ethicist at a company doing drug/medical research probably mostly oversees that the company's research practices are legal and safe (and that participants give informed consent).
At typical corporation, something like a Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer (CECO) would be largely focused on legal compliance - making sure company personnel aren't engaged in bribery, fraud, insider trading etc. The value of this role (and the medical example) is to prevent lawsuits and/or prosecution.
For a company like Meta, an ethicist is likely concerned with the inherent ethical concerns of running a social media company, which impacts the mental health of its users, many of whom are minors. For AI companies, the ethics of releasing models that are capable of doing dangerous things. In name, the job probably involves giving recommendations about how to ethically implement features in the platform to minimize harm. In practice, the job probably accomplishes very little.
Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining
#119AI labs are really good at disingenuousnessmaxxing
Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining
#120Lol, Sam Altman has had an ethics team this whole time? Her typical day: "No Sam, you can't just publicly screw over everyone and get rid of all the jobs, the peasants care about that sort of thing and if they get angry enough we'll have real problems. No we can't just kill them all, why would you suggest that?"
Before Altman she worked for Zuckerberg. What will be next?
Time to put in a call to Ellison.