FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

Post by Joel_Mckay » Mon, Aug 10, 2026, 8:47 AM UTC

nl wrote: post #109

Joel_Mckay wrote: post #108

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>You are going to need proof for this. Are you asking for proof China is not Communist? It is common knowledge Party Service Centers and State-Directed Industrial Policy support have been active for decades. One may talk with US customs about why industries had anti-dumping levies on China exports. Also, the PRC Party embeds advisors in almost every large successful domestic firm. So businesses couldn't really have '…

>>> Selling products at a loss relying on government $0 labor cost subsidy for years >> You are going to need proof for this. > Are you asking for proof China is not Communist? No, I literally quoted exactly what I'm asking for proof for.

Post by Joel_Mckay » Mon, Aug 10, 2026, 10:58 AM UTC

nl wrote: post #112

Joel_Mckay wrote: post #111

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I was not referring to the recently expanded NDRC programs https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3317637/c... Nor was it related to forced and or child labor political taboos https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/reports/child-labor/list-o... But it was a rather simple multi-year PRC Party labor partnership program for key industries. Very frustrating as I can't remember if it was for foreign owned firms onl…

So basically you made the whole thing up.

Post by Joel_Mckay » Mon, Aug 10, 2026, 3:42 PM UTC

nl wrote: post #114

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Which part of the forced unpaid labor noted in the trade policy notice do you think is imaginary? I can't immediately recall the program name my boss from Procter & Gamble worked under at the time. But it was similar to the XPCC labor programs cited in the provided links. One can believe whatever BS a naive LLM tells them, but in this case you were wrong. The import levies/fines/bans will stay until folks can provide…

None of the links you provided talk about what you claimed at all. Instead they talk about forced labor in other industries. That's terrible and all forced labor - including in US prison system - should be stopped. But you made very specific allegations about wage subsidiaries for electric motor manufacturer and is zero evidence for that. Now you are moving the goal posts to random "China bad" talking points.

Post by monster_truck » Mon, Aug 10, 2026, 3:54 PM UTC

overfeed wrote: post #102

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4k video is worthless compared to LiDAR. You are never going to get sub millisecond dead reckoning from video processing. Previously this required things like extremely expensive, export controlled ring laser gyroscopes (they do not drift and cannot be easily interfered with or jammed like the cheap IMU in your phone) There are many more reasons LiDAR kicks ass but none of them have anything to do with why they are d…

> 4k video is worthless compared to LiDAR. You are never going to get sub millisecond dead reckoning from video processing Will America's foes heinously attack the homeland by offering socialistic self-driving vehicles? What exactly the threat model here, that makes Lidar data dangerous? Space-based remote sensing is superior in almost every way.

Post by OutOfHere » Mon, Aug 10, 2026, 6:38 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #58

fitblipper wrote: post #46

Stop manipulating our markets under the guize of national security or protecting Americans. If we need to be protected from bad behavior we need to be protected by all bad behavior regardless of it's origin. Has back doors? Ban it. Has awful security around sensitive data? Ban it. Makes technology available to the masses that is a national security risk? Ban it(if you most). Why give US companies a pass on this? It's…

The idea is to provide protection for incubating a local industry in what's deemed a key strategic sector. But that's not the best way to do it. See what the Jones Act did to US shipbuilding. We should make foreign companies manufacture here, just like China did. It also works as a jobs program and builds up and industrial base and skill, as we've seen with the Japanese automotive sector.