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Switching to electric stoves can dramatically cut indoor air pollution (2025)

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Re: Switching to electric stoves can dramatically cut indoor air pollution (2025)

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Post by lancewiggs »

cassianoleal wrote: post #89
grandma_tea wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ruled out the possibility that you have a bad stove?

It depends on what you call bad. It's certainly not top of the line, thousands of pounds worth, but it's not a cheap one either. Honestly it's my first induction one, so who knows? It's a Belling Cookcentre 100Ei [0]. [0] https://www.belling.co.uk/en-gb/cookcentre-100ei-range

That appears to have poor feedback about the induction cooktop itself, and is inferior to, say, Bosch. Cycles on and off, poor pan detection, lower peak power, areas being affected smaller than the lines on the top etc.

Re: Switching to electric stoves can dramatically cut indoor air pollution (2025)

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Post by ryan_lane »

pkulak wrote: post #66
chomp wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can’t (properly) cook a tortilla on an electric burner, though you can get subpar results in a pan Can’t char a pepper on an electric burner Can’t heat a nabe on an electric burner Also during hurricane season, my gas burner still works when the power goes out. The list goes on of things that electric simply cannot do. To claim one is superior over the other ignores a lot of the ways people cook. They are just simply…

Does the list _really_ go on though? I think we basically exhausted it (and one on that list is solved with a $10 torch, one with a cast iron pan, the other with an induction-friendly nabe). You can make lists for induction too: - Can't temper chocolate, cook a hollandaise, or do anything that requires low heat without using a double boiler. - Can't boil a large pot of water in under 20 minutes (unless you have a hig…

> Can't set the temperature of the pan

My gas stovetop in japan has a temperature sensor, and can detect excess temperature (food or oil burning), maintain a temperature, etc. It's possible with gas.

That said, I miss my induction stovetop, and I'm building a house, and it'll have induction, rather than gas.

Re: Switching to electric stoves can dramatically cut indoor air pollution (2025)

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Post by ryan_lane »

pkulak wrote: post #72
expedition32 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Professional kitchens have way better exhaust than your typical modern apartment. If your kitchen is in your living room (and nowadays they all are) I would definitely switch to induction.

And professional kitchens turn them on! I've literally never seen anyone turn on their range hood while cooking, unless they burn something and are trying to get the smoke alarm to turn off.

A lot of range hoods in the US vent back into the house, surprisingly, especially if it's an apartment. IMO it should be code to have them vent outside.

Re: Switching to electric stoves can dramatically cut indoor air pollution (2025)

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Post by cmclaughlin »

hellisothers wrote: post #87
syntaxing wrote: post #10

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No way. I cook everyday and induction is vastly superior than gas. The only time fire is vastly superior is when I use a wok which I have a stove I use outdoors. Most induction stoves have temperature maintained too. So it can keep your oil at a specific temperature let it be frying or confit or roasting spices.

Maybe it’s because my wife is literally a chef but you’ll have to pull her gas range/oven out of her dead hands. She’s worked with induction before for years, it is not the same league. For instance, you can’t tilt the pan.

I have a Bosch induction range and it doesn't immediately turn off the "burner" or beep when the pan is lifted up, so yeah I can tilt the pan.

Re: Switching to electric stoves can dramatically cut indoor air pollution (2025)

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Post by preg_match »

PeterWhittaker wrote: post #5

That's why I love my induction range: all the benefits of gas (near instant heat control and response, even cooking, etc.), none of the asthma or benzene!

I have a regular electric cooktop and it sucks, I wish I had induction. The heat control and response is unbelievably slow. It takes too long to heat up, but MUCH longer to cool down. If you overshoot, it's bad. Also, at least for mine, the range is not proportional. Medium heat to high heat is basically no difference.

Re: Switching to electric stoves can dramatically cut indoor air pollution (2025)

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Post by stephbook »

kibwen wrote: post #82
stephbook wrote: post #56

I don't get it. Did the US never get electric stoves? They're over 100 years old tech at this point. It's weird that noone here mentions there are electric stoves between gas and induction.

The US's infrastructure was built out with gas in mind. Having a gas stove is a status symbol, where having a resistive electric stove was for the longest time considered the domain of the poor, hence why people are so romantically attached to gas despite the fact that it's worse in basically every way than a modern induction stove.

That explains a lot, thank you. Still a weird quirk that the dirty gas is considered an elite symbol.

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Post by btreecat »

sm-silversight wrote: post #7

I don't care. Quality-of-life. I cook in a pan every day. Nothing but an open flame gives me the kind of control I need to cook with the precision I do. Whatever the harmful effects on my health are, that is a trade I make consciously. My life would be noticeably worse without my open-flame stove. I'd wager anyone who opines otherwise in this thread barely cooks or doesn't cook in a serious fashion. A gas stove is a…

And you'd lose that wager multiple times over

Re: Switching to electric stoves can dramatically cut indoor air pollution (2025)

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Post by btreecat »

hellisothers wrote: post #88
pkulak wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the list _really_ go on though? I think we basically exhausted it (and one on that list is solved with a $10 torch, one with a cast iron pan, the other with an induction-friendly nabe). You can make lists for induction too: - Can't temper chocolate, cook a hollandaise, or do anything that requires low heat without using a double boiler. - Can't boil a large pot of water in under 20 minutes (unless you have a hig…

Let’s assume we both have nice ranges. - I can temper on my 7k BTU burner - I can boil water quick AF on my 18k BTU burner - setting pan temp isn’t a thing, there are no recipes that call for a pan temp. Oil temp? Sure and that is why you have a thermometer, very solved problem. For browning etc you do it by time and feel, even if you could set a pan temp you wouldn’t just leave your meat on it for some temp x time a…

It's not just how much water can you boil and how fast, it's the excess heat and significant hit to indoor air quality, and CO2 concentration

Re: Switching to electric stoves can dramatically cut indoor air pollution (2025)

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Post by btreecat »

hellisothers wrote: post #86

If you do the deep research on this there are many qualifiers to get the result they’re purporting. The main issue is you have to have little to no ventilation to make their numbers work. If you have a hood and or good indoor airflow to a window then this is all propaganda.

Most hoods in apartments (and many houses) are not vented to the outdoors. They just move the air inside around.

You're not helping the air quality if all you do is move it around inside.

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