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Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by chasd00 »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #101
a34729t wrote: post #41

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They have a much biglier support vessel this time, almost 300ft long IIRC. So maybe they can recover it?

It might be possible. Allegedly they had previously asked the Australian government about towing the ship back to a port. Marine recovery can be much more difficult than it might seem though. Towing this nearly 200ft structure weighing a decent fraction of the weight of the boat that is not designed to be seaworthy, potentially full of explosive gasses and that could rapidly start breaking up and taking on water, nea…

yeah it's suppose to tip over, explode and sink. Not sure what they're going to do with it now. If some other country comes in and salvages intact Raptor3, flight computers, and all the other ITAR regulated tech SpaceX may have a big problem. SpaceX will probably ask the airforce to gift them a jdam delivery or something.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by testing22321 »

modeless wrote: post #14

Successful Raptor on-orbit relight demo! That should clear the next flight to go to orbit and deploy operational satellites! Big milestone for the program. And the ship landing was so soft it didn't even explode! That's never happened before. And it's still connected to Starlink too. The ship's cameras are still working underwater! I wonder if they will be able to recover it intact? We're getting some great views of…

> None of the heat shields so far looked reusable without refurbishment, including this one.

What about this one looks not reusable without refurbishment?

To my eye it’s by far the best we’ve seen, no burn through on flaps, etc

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Post by dag11 »

WalterBright wrote: post #109
estearum wrote: post #83

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"Bet ya a signed dollar it's true." - Musk's follow-up

It went so, so far beyond a schoolyard taunt. All of my friends and I remember the debacle clearly, and it's the moment we all went from childhood idolizers of Musk to feeling pretty sick about the dude.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by qwerpy »

appplication wrote: post #19

It’s interesting the cognitive dissonance this brings out in me. As much as I think Musk carries a fairly reprehensible aura, I would still like to see SpaceX succeed. Space has a funny, transcendent way of inspiring us.

I’m glad that of all places, HN is still able to grudgingly put aside red/blue team sports to appreciate really cool science and engineering.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by aejm »

chasd00 wrote: post #111
stinkbeetle wrote: post #101

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It might be possible. Allegedly they had previously asked the Australian government about towing the ship back to a port. Marine recovery can be much more difficult than it might seem though. Towing this nearly 200ft structure weighing a decent fraction of the weight of the boat that is not designed to be seaworthy, potentially full of explosive gasses and that could rapidly start breaking up and taking on water, nea…

yeah it's suppose to tip over, explode and sink. Not sure what they're going to do with it now. If some other country comes in and salvages intact Raptor3, flight computers, and all the other ITAR regulated tech SpaceX may have a big problem. SpaceX will probably ask the airforce to gift them a jdam delivery or something.

They can relatively easily sink it, and in fact are required to be able to in order to get their US FAA launch license. As part of the environmental assessment specifically, but I could be wrong on that. For those curious, they have recovery teams on sight who can essentially shoot it to further puncture the hull or attach explosives even. They have experience with their Starship boosters not sinking off the coast of Texas and floating into Mexican waters.

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Post by GolfPopper »

WalterBright wrote: post #84
pudgywalsh wrote: post #42

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Actual, literal Nazis got us to the Moon and frankly no one cared. Not then, not now. Try separating politics from the advancement of humanity, you'll feel better.

In "V2" page 179 Dornberger writes: "Do you know that your closest colleagues (including von Braun) have stated in company at Zinnowitz that it had never been their intention to make a weapon of war out of he rocket? That they had worked, under pressure from yourself (Dornberger) at the whole business of development and only in order to obtain money for their experiments and the confirmation of their theories? That t…

From by Tom Lehrer's "Wernher von Braun"[1],

Don't say that he's hypocritical

Say rather that he's apolitical

"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?

That's not my department!" says Wernher von Braun

1. https://youtu.be/QEJ9HrZq7Ro?t=14

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Post by ceejayoz »

WalterBright wrote: post #109
estearum wrote: post #83

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> Musk has said it was a common insult among schoolboys in S Africa.

Consider that maybe "derogatory things wealthy white South Africans say about people in the apartheid era" is not a great standard to live up to.

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Post by estearum »

WalterBright wrote: post #109
estearum wrote: post #83

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Months after he apologized for the initial false "pedo" claim, Musk claimed in an email to Buzzfeed that Unsworth (the rescue diver) was "a child rapist" who "moved to Chiang Rai for a child bride who was 12 years old at the time."

Musk hired a private investigator to confirm the pedophile allegations (which failed, of course).

Try again kiddo. Absolutely pathetic. Defending this shit is a moral failure for you too.

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Post by WalterBright »

defrost wrote: post #98
WalterBright wrote: post #94

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It was an intemperate comment, sure. As was the rescue worker's insult when Musk was trying to help.

Front line rescue workers and first responders are famously required to be polite to looky lou's wanting to make tragic events all about themselves and their dumb PR stunts.

Musk offered money and the services of his crack engineering team. Now, he probably went about it the wrong way, but dismissing it as a looky lou is a bit unfair.

Musk has also done dumb PR things like provide free Starlink service to people cut off after the hurricane.

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Post by ceejayoz »

estearum wrote: post #118
WalterBright wrote: post #109

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Months after he apologized for the initial false "pedo" claim, Musk claimed in an email to Buzzfeed that Unsworth (the rescue diver) was "a child rapist" who "moved to Chiang Rai for a child bride who was 12 years old at the time." Musk hired a private investigator to confirm the pedophile allegations (which failed, of course). Try again kiddo. Absolutely pathetic. Defending this shit is a moral failure for you too.

Cite: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45418245

> Writing in an email to Buzzfeed reporter Ryan Mac, Mr Musk went further. He told the reporter to "call people you know in Thailand, find out what's actually going on and stop defending child rapists".

> He alleged that Mr Unsworth, 63, had spent decades visiting and living in Thailand and had recently moved to Chiang Rai in northern Thailand "for a child bride who was about 12 years old at the time".

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