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Re: Moonshot AI suspends new subscriptions due to Kimi K3 demand

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Post by mDyJzDPmBdG »

Razengan wrote: post #26
Alifatisk wrote: post #19

> Over the past 48 hours, demand has pushed close to the limits of our current capacity. To protect the experience of existing subscribers, we're temporarily pausing new subscriptions and prioritizing compute for current members. Existing subscribed users are not affected. Such a beautiful paragraph to read, a company that prioritizes their current customers and focus on keeping them satisfied instead of just focusin…

> a company that prioritizes their current customers and focus on keeping them satisfied instead of just focusing on fast growth. I always hated how the "Login" button is smaller on every website than the "Sign Up" button.

Is it really that common? On some sites the only way to find signup is to first go to login page

Re: Moonshot AI suspends new subscriptions due to Kimi K3 demand

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Post by kamranjon »

brcmthrowaway wrote: post #72
kamranjon wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I am likely coming from a completely different world because I use entirely self hosted models - but is it really common in your workflows to just wait for 12 minutes without any feedback? I am constantly watching my model and following the path it’s taking and cutting it off or steering it if it’s headed down a dead path. I was just curious if this is really common to just have no feedback for 12 minutes?

What local model?

DeepSeek V4 Flash

Re: Moonshot AI suspends new subscriptions due to Kimi K3 demand

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Post by impossiblefork »

eru wrote: post #78
impossiblefork wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but how would it have been if the EU governments just piled on, subsidized whoever had reasonable qualifications who wanted to try, straight-up funded accelerator development so that the chips don't just become investment in US AI companies, straight up built the supercomputers for training, straight up offered access to groups that had previously had reasonable success in training some model. I don't think it w…

What's their track record for other state sponsored high tech work? I remember a few high profile failures; but perhaps on average these things work out?

I am actually not quite sure.

Here in the EU Rhea 1 was delayed and thus maybe a bit of a failure, but Rhea 2 might be good and seems to be on time. OpenChip seems to be on time too. The university work, people like Hochreiter etc. is clearly good.

What are the high-profile failures?

Re: Moonshot AI suspends new subscriptions due to Kimi K3 demand

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Post by impossiblefork »

miohtama wrote: post #102
impossiblefork wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but how would it have been if the EU governments just piled on, subsidized whoever had reasonable qualifications who wanted to try, straight-up funded accelerator development so that the chips don't just become investment in US AI companies, straight up built the supercomputers for training, straight up offered access to groups that had previously had reasonable success in training some model. I don't think it w…

The EU spends EUR 300B yearly on agricultural subsidies and social programs.

Mm.

Still, maybe less money could be enough.

If Euclyd's chip costs 40k per chip and we want to substitute all worldwide H200 inference capacity, so let's say 700,000 H200eds and Euclyd are right about how good their chip is, then we'd need 28,000 Euclyd cards, this is only 1.120 billion.

So maybe even 1 billion for VSORA chips this year and then two billion for VSORA and Euclyd chips next year, with the split based on how well the chips perform and some money for the lagging firm so they can keep designing things too.

Re: Moonshot AI suspends new subscriptions due to Kimi K3 demand

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Post by QuantumGood »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #29
Razengan wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a company that prioritizes their current customers and focus on keeping them satisfied instead of just focusing on fast growth. I always hated how the "Login" button is smaller on every website than the "Sign Up" button.

> I always hated how the "Login" button is smaller on every website than the "Sign Up" button. I always assumed that was because it's the least common flow. Once you've signed up, you're logged in, so the only time you should ever need the "login" button is on a new computer, or after logging out to switch accounts, or if the service offers a "remember me" checkbox (don't do that) and doesn't check it by default ( de…

It's an "absence of light" pattern (as opposed to dark pattern). Creating a very common tech support issue; sometimes "login" isn't even visible.

Re: Moonshot AI suspends new subscriptions due to Kimi K3 demand

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Post by sideras56 »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #29
Razengan wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a company that prioritizes their current customers and focus on keeping them satisfied instead of just focusing on fast growth. I always hated how the "Login" button is smaller on every website than the "Sign Up" button.

> I always hated how the "Login" button is smaller on every website than the "Sign Up" button. I always assumed that was because it's the least common flow. Once you've signed up, you're logged in, so the only time you should ever need the "login" button is on a new computer, or after logging out to switch accounts, or if the service offers a "remember me" checkbox (don't do that) and doesn't check it by default ( de…

sometimes websites design sign up button as primary button, and login as secondary
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