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This is one of those vanity blog posts, a “look at us, we’re open” blog posts without actual openness, or rather, limited openness where it helps their image and not openness that could backfire. Businesses don’t operate based on revenue. They operate based on profit. They operate based on operating expenses. They operate based off of free cash flow. Showing off revenue and number of accounts is showing off a tiny po…

All you saw on that page was the revenue? For a potential customer deciding whether to trust a relatively small app (compared to Google and Apple) with their memories, these are useful numbers. 50% increase in paying customers this year. Nearly half a million registered users, with a 40% growth in the last 6 months. 5% of their users are paying customers. Revenue topping a million. That's stuff I want to know if I'm…

> That's stuff I want to know if I'm subscribing and uploading all my pics to their servers. I want to know if they'll be around, and my stuff is safe.

How do those numbers tell you that, though? Profit would be a better indicator of how likely they are to still be around tomorrow, in my opinion at least.

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...I was not at all confused about what it was when I looked at it. When I saw "safe home for your photos" I assumed it was a platform for uploading photos via an app or on the web. "Cross platform" is even a sub-heading. Do you use iCloud or Google Photos? Sometimes I see this complaint for products here and I am just... confounded. Are people unable to use context clues to infer meaning? I really don't mean to be r…

Is it an app or a web service? What does the app look like? What does the web service look like? >Sometimes I see this complaint for products here and I am just... confounded. I think you probably don't have as much experience with the depth and breadth of peoples comprehension of online design language as you might think you do. "Safe home for your photos" - even this is ambiguous. Photos, as in hard copy? Or digita…

> what differentiates Ente from iCloud Photos - at first (assumptive) glance, it appears redundant.

I think the point is that it's an alternative clone of iCloud or Google Photos that's not from Apple or Google. For some people, it's really obvious why you would want that, but if it's not to you, I can see why it might be more confusing why it exists.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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That’s not the only unique selling point. It’s a very refined and feature-complete product with e2ee. Many alternatives just don’t have feature parity…Ente has been of the few alternative apps where you can say “it has everything important Google/Apple Photos has.” It has desktop apps, which a number of alternatives don’t have. It has automated continuous plain-directory export for making your 3-2-1 backup that uses…

GP here. You make some valid points, but I was talking about the pricing of the hosted service by Ente because Ente allows self hosting too. Of course, the investment to support self hosting and to provide the apps (for free to anyone, including the self hosting crowd) matter in pricing decisions. But it still seems quite high to me.

Makes sense. And yeah, it’s not the lowest price out there.

I think if you do want something hosted by someone else without the hassle and time investment of self hosting, you want end to end encryption, your choices especially for something very strong on photo organization features is a pretty small selection.

Something like Proton Drive is pretty weak on photo features, or you could go with iCloud photos with enhanced security mode but then you’re still with big tech in a locked down ecosystem.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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A lot of confusion about what services this company offers and I don’t blame them.

I am a happy user of “ente auth” ever since authy killed their desktop app. Bitwarden is too much I just need a 2fa app that is secure enough but not too annoying like remembering a 2nd factor for my 2fa app.

Only today did I remember oh they do photo backups.

Love from KL.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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Their costs are low, being based in India.

Are they based in India? They list offices in the US, India and Netherlands and advertise that they store photos in 3 European countries...

Their office is in India. The company is based in the US and they store data in the EU.

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Are they based in India? They list offices in the US, India and Netherlands and advertise that they store photos in 3 European countries...

Their office is in India. The company is based in the US and they store data in the EU.

Their US address is a mailbox, make of that what you will.

Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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GP here. You make some valid points, but I was talking about the pricing of the hosted service by Ente because Ente allows self hosting too. Of course, the investment to support self hosting and to provide the apps (for free to anyone, including the self hosting crowd) matter in pricing decisions. But it still seems quite high to me.

Makes sense. And yeah, it’s not the lowest price out there. I think if you do want something hosted by someone else without the hassle and time investment of self hosting, you want end to end encryption, your choices especially for something very strong on photo organization features is a pretty small selection. Something like Proton Drive is pretty weak on photo features, or you could go with iCloud photos with enha…

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Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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Is it an app or a web service? What does the app look like? What does the web service look like? >Sometimes I see this complaint for products here and I am just... confounded. I think you probably don't have as much experience with the depth and breadth of peoples comprehension of online design language as you might think you do. "Safe home for your photos" - even this is ambiguous. Photos, as in hard copy? Or digita…

> what differentiates Ente from iCloud Photos - at first (assumptive) glance, it appears redundant. I think the point is that it's an alternative clone of iCloud or Google Photos that's not from Apple or Google. For some people, it's really obvious why you would want that, but if it's not to you, I can see why it might be more confusing why it exists.

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Re: Ente – Opening Our Books

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post #112

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Is it an app or a web service? What does the app look like? What does the web service look like? >Sometimes I see this complaint for products here and I am just... confounded. I think you probably don't have as much experience with the depth and breadth of peoples comprehension of online design language as you might think you do. "Safe home for your photos" - even this is ambiguous. Photos, as in hard copy? Or digita…

> what differentiates Ente from iCloud Photos - at first (assumptive) glance, it appears redundant. I think the point is that it's an alternative clone of iCloud or Google Photos that's not from Apple or Google. For some people, it's really obvious why you would want that, but if it's not to you, I can see why it might be more confusing why it exists.

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