The title made me realized that there is less and less use of the "serverless". Which was one of the most non-sensical word to say "You don't maintain the server".
"Yo dawg, I heard you hated cloud, so we re-branded cloud"
Telegram Serverless
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Re: Telegram Serverless
#112Emphasis mine: > Each invocation runs in a lightweight V8 isolate, close to Telegram's own systems, so calls to the Bot API and your database are quick and reliable. Telegram’s servers are distributed worldwide. I understand that the calls to the Bot API may be quick because the serverless code would be propagated to the edge, but how does it handle an SQLite DB? Is that also replicated to guarantee quick access from…
Telegram's servers are far from "distributed worldwide": In fact, it currently has only 5 logical "data center"s, and while DC3 is still on, clues [0] seem to suggest DC3 doesn't actually carry user data at all now, and both DC2 and 4 are in Amsterdam, so essentially they just need to serve 3 locations. Also, Telegram's protocol design only allows for connecting to user's home DC for any write interactions (except me…
And also all EU users have to remain in the EU
Re: Telegram Serverless
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like it's free, so, why the hate? May as well have zero docs. I don't think they're trying to convince you of anything.
If they can't be bothered to write it , why should I be bothered to read it?
Presumably because you've read the first sentence, Telegram Serverless lets you run backend code for your bot and Mini App directly on Telegram's infrastructure, and were interested by the service/proposition enough to keep reading and then noticing it's LLM slop. :)
Re: Telegram Serverless
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not having a bot API is one of the many things that makes Signal amazing
Not having a bot API is what stops me from moving to Signal. I have 10-ish telegram bots running for myself, I just use telegram as UI for a script running on backend, and results are easily shareable with my other telegram contacts. I have no clue why not having this is amazing in any way.
IMHO because it means that Signal stays focused on being a secure messaging platform and not an 'application platform'.
Telegram is great because it has bots, etc. but Signal is great because they have one core focus and they don't complicate their infrastructure or codebase by adding things that aren't what people want from Signal.
There's nothing wrong with having two messaging applications; let Telegram be the bot and automation platform of choice and let Signal focus on being a secure and reliable messaging solution.