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Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training

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Post by wolvoleo » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 2:34 PM UTC

kivle wrote: post #69

abroszka33 wrote: post #27

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I think Facebook lost a similar lawsuit recently where you had to accept that they can use your data or pay to access the site. And it was found illegal in the EU. The problem is that it takes years and users don't wait for years. There should be a way to harm these companies more on the EU level.

I'm in Norway, and I never consented in that dialog box, so my Facebook account is in limbo. The dialog still appears when I go to Facebook, years later, so I don't think anything has changed?

Perhaps Norway didn't get included? I know GDPR does apply to Norway, but perhaps the legal basis was in another law that didn't transfer to the EEA area?

I don't use Facebook myself anymore so I can't check.

Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training

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Post by Levitating » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 3:14 PM UTC

red-iron-pine wrote: post #104

Levitating wrote: post #101

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How about people just stop buying this crap instead? I've never owned a Samsung and I never will. People need to step out of this abusive relationship instead of trying to improve it. You will never be happy with a device you don't own.

point me to some mature, effective options and I'd consider it. now that you've done that, which ones are cheap, cuz most people are broke af

FairPhone, Nothing Phone, Jolla, Motorola, Google Pixel.

If you're broke you shouldn't touch Samsung anyway. Better off buying a Xiaomi and unlocking it.

Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training

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Post by Levitating » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 3:21 PM UTC

alyeska wrote: post #105

Levitating wrote: post #101

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How about people just stop buying this crap instead? I've never owned a Samsung and I never will. People need to step out of this abusive relationship instead of trying to improve it. You will never be happy with a device you don't own.

Really quick that leads to not being able to buy anything though. Sony has done a bunch of evil things (deleting paid media, hiding rootkits in music CDs). Apple abuses their monopoly to force using their web browser and extort a 30% cut of all purchases. Every car manufacturer is tracking every car they sell and selling that data. Retailers are tracking store visits using everything from face recognition to MAC addr…

It's not about boycotting or regulations. Just don't buy products you don't get to own, it's not that hard.

I've never owned a Sony (other than a headset) or Apple product either. I am doing fine.

Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training

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Post by wolvoleo » Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 8:12 PM UTC

jdmarble wrote: post #109

wolvoleo wrote: post #106

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I don't really want to ask for permission to be excused from this vile monitoring. I don't want it to be in there at all. But I'm not aware of any brand which doesn't do this.

I’ve got 2 Sceptre “dumb” TVs.

Thanks, never heard of that brand but I'll have a look.