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Gun Mistakes in Fiction Writing: Handgun Edition

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Re: Gun Mistakes in Fiction Writing: Handgun Edition

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This is a good example of movies using inaccurate depictions that audiences will easily understand instead of accurate depictions that may confuse them. Just think of it as a translation.

Alas, and a missed opportunity for education…

Most movies are in the business of entertainment, not education. It’s unfortunate, but such is life.

Re: Gun Mistakes in Fiction Writing: Handgun Edition

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One of the things about fiction is that it gets almost everything wrong. It isn’t just guns. It’s professions like spies and snipers, cars, boats, planes, programming/hacking, radios, technology, etc. And those are just the areas that I personally know they get wrong, because I know more than the average person in those areas. Some people judge fiction way too harshly for inconsequential but inaccurate details which…

I just wish they would wear military uniforms properly in movies. I can handle the rest.

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...Rotate 180 degrees to the other side of the subject....

“Can the computer take us around the other side?”

“…it can hypothesize.”

Jack Black in 1998 was righter than he had any right to be :p

Re: Gun Mistakes in Fiction Writing: Handgun Edition

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I was just watching Tom Scott's latest video, he mentioned firing a trebuchet and the guide pointed this out that you don't "fire" a trebuchet since it doesn't involve gunpowder, you launch it. Tom's commentary later was that he disagreed with that sentiment. "I disagree with those potential comments. Words change their meaning overtime. In modern English, you can fire an arrow, you can fire a torpedo, we were gonna…

In the US Navy at least, you don't "fire" a torpedo, you "shoot" it. The lore is that "fire" has a very specific, very urgent meaning on a warship and you don't use that word unless there actually is a fire.

There are lots of these hyper-specific "reserved keywords" in the military. Another one from the US Army is "repeat", which is the command for an artillery battery to fire again with the same parameters as their previous barrage. Therefore on the radio we only ever used "say again" to ask someone to repeat their last transmission. Even if no one on the radio had ever or would ever be involved in artillery operations, I imagine it's easier to just train the entire force on a single uniform standard.

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Didn’t he piece rumors and made intelligent guesses so well that the government freaked out wondering where the leak was?

Possible he had a real source?

sometimes, you just have to hang out in the right bar, and you will hear a multitude of secrets, this is why some projects had thier own towns so none of the inside would get out.

Re: Gun Mistakes in Fiction Writing: Handgun Edition

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One of the things about fiction is that it gets almost everything wrong. It isn’t just guns. It’s professions like spies and snipers, cars, boats, planes, programming/hacking, radios, technology, etc. And those are just the areas that I personally know they get wrong, because I know more than the average person in those areas. Some people judge fiction way too harshly for inconsequential but inaccurate details which…

This is why you don't have a gun, you have a boomstick. It's some sort of shotgun and that's all you need to know. Go boom, splatter deadites.

Re: Gun Mistakes in Fiction Writing: Handgun Edition

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I'm not a handgun expert at all but I've caught a few of these, like the guy who racked the slide on his revolver. The author who really impressed me, although not with his handgun knowledge, was Tom Clancy. I was in the anti-submarine warfare business in the 1970s and some of what he wrote in Red October I only knew from classified sources.

If I was doing this, I'd take it to extremes: "He heard the 'snick' of the revolver's safety as the baddie slid a fresh magazine into the handle, followed moments later by the click-click as the bolt shot home. He knew he still had a few moments while the baddie nestled the stock against his cheek, taking care not to catch his fingers on the bayonet lugs".

There, that should do it.

Re: Gun Mistakes in Fiction Writing: Handgun Edition

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Possible he had a real source?

sometimes, you just have to hang out in the right bar, and you will hear a multitude of secrets, this is why some projects had thier own towns so none of the inside would get out.

Russia was a bit more extreme in that regard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_city

Re: Gun Mistakes in Fiction Writing: Handgun Edition

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To add to this:

    * Finger on the trigger. Very dangerous. Pulp Fiction showed the consequences
    * Using ball ammo

I actually dislike the pistols without manual safety. CCW people always say: but the Glock/P365/P320/VP9/... have an internal safety, a trigger safety and a drop safety.

But these safeties are not additive. If your trigger safety fails, the gun will go off. Same with the drop safety.

At least with a manual safety those are additional. It's not that because your car has an airbag that you stop wearing your seatbelt right?

Re: Gun Mistakes in Fiction Writing: Handgun Edition

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post #37

One thing I have noticed messed up in a lot of fiction (written/tv/movies/etc) is how loud guns actually are. Scenes of multiple people without any hearing protection emptying their guns that doesn't have any kind of supressors/silencer multiple times in a closed space (usually a single room) and then just casually chatting with each 5 seconds later. In general the sounds of guns are very bad in most movies/tv shows…

A buddy of mine was showing off his new Ruger hammerless .357 to me. Intrigued by the hammerless design, I asked him where the safety was. He fiddled with it and the thing went off. We were both deaf for about a week. The round went through a dresser and 2 dry walls. We found the slug in the kitchen (we were in another room). I lived to tell, but guns are indeed loud, even a 22.
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