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The Vespa at 80

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Re: The Vespa at 80

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I like Vespas, they're very stylish, but damn they are noisy, and not a nice rumble either but more like a very loud chainsaw. They give off a terrible amount of smoke compared more modern scooters too. I do often wonder why so few other new small motorcycles or scooters have similarly beautiful designs though. However, for me, having lived in a country with a motorbike culture for the last decade, the coolest thing…

The lack of noise and smoke is a big one. I used to ride Honda CBR500R as my primary commute vehicle for a few years in Seattle. And while the rumble of the engine was not at the chainsaw-levels of annoying, it still sucked, it still emitted smoke, and I still had to wear ear protection. Which I would need to wear even on an electric motorcycle as well, to be fair, given that I took highway (and the wind noise at spe…

> I happily drove an EV car before for multiple years, until I moved to NYC and stopped driving

Having followed a similar path, the lifestyle upgrade of moving to an EV, then abandoning car dependant commuting use is great.

In the pouring rain and howling wind I do occasionally wonder what I’m doing, but sitting in a traffic jam is awful.

> And, mind you, I ran it with a stock exhaust. I absolutely despise people who install extra-loud (illegal) aftermarket exhausts on purpose, because they know that nobody is gonna enforce it.

Add to this: car stereos and the craze for adding (stolen) school PA speakers for playing obnoxiously loud music.

Re: The Vespa at 80

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Ive seen someone make electric retrofit kits for vespas which sounds great to me

There literally are og electric vespas, I don't think they're great value for money but I guess people like the way they look. Then again, I'd rather see more of them in the city than loud motorcycles https://www.vespa.com/it_IT/modelli/primavera/primavera-elet...

The Sprint also does an electric model too when I look around that site.

https://www.vespa.com/it_IT/modelli/sprint/sprint-s-elettric...

Re: The Vespa at 80

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Switched from Vespa (combustion) to Unu (electric) and Black Tea (electric) .. and the one feature I yearn for, from the Vespa era, is its noise factor. Electric is damn quiet, damn smooth, and damn fast. (And damn comfy.) And that can be a problem. Especially in a city like, say, Vienna, where people just do not check before they cross some of these little cosy streets. I became a much more alert and guarding rider…

> people just do not check before they cross some of these little cosy streets. Yes, you're supposed to be the one checking that you don't hit pedestrians. Cities are for humans first, machines second. Drive slower. If you want to drive fast, take a road trip.

I assumed they were talking about cars and other motorists. I drive a scooter (Genuine Buddy) and have crashed before due to drivers not checking properly when at a two way stop

Re: The Vespa at 80

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> "The first ads for the Vespa featured a woman," said Sarra. "You could call it a kind of feminist design." Well, a big feature of the Vespa design is that, unlike other motorcycles, women (or Scottish men) can ride them with skirts. Surely that helped with their initial popularity.

'Kilt! Whas happ'n tae'e last wee rocket as call't a skirt'

https://www.amazon.com/Kilt-Happened-Person-Called-Skirt/dp/...

But you're not wrong. I haven't rode and actual Vespa, but have been on a Yamaha Vino YJ50 in my full montie gallus kilt, frae bunnet tae brogues.

Re: The Vespa at 80

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I have a couple of Vespas - a '98 T5 and a 2011 PX Unità d'Italia - and honestly my favourite safety feature is the noise they _can_ make. Modern Vespas don’t sound like the old ones from the factory anymore, but the retro scene is strong, so a lot of tuning kits bring back that classic buzz. In town, filtering, weaving through traffic, getting to the front at lights etc., being able to make a sound which is so ubiqu…

Solving the safety problem by making it loud does not seem like a great solution. Fast forward and everyone is driving nearly silent electric vehicles. I wouldn’t want loud Vespas then. Cutting city noise pollution is one of the benefits of electric vehicles.

It's not a great solution but it's the best one I've got, and it's still more ecological than driving the (electric) car for the same one-person trip. And audible != loud.

Anyway, don't most places legally require nearly silent electric vehicles to emit some kind of artificial noise?

Re: The Vespa at 80

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I hated our Vespa when I was a kid in the seventies but their calendars were cool. You know that instinct you get when you're slowing down or coming to a stop, where you just want to stick your feet out for balance? Well, every time I did that, I felt like those sharp metal edges on the Vespa were just waiting to scrape my leg or catch my ankle. It wasn't a bike to me; it was a hazard on two wheels. So when the oppor…

Air strikes? Where was this?

Re: The Vespa at 80

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Vespas are fashionable and cute but the coolest thing on 2 wheels award goes to Simsons of all colors and stripes (2-stroke or electric, pick your poison). In Germany, the grandfathered 2-strokes are also the only way you can legally ride somethibg faster than 45 km/h on a moped license.

This sort of thing?

The bars look like an 80s bmx.

https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2021/12/27/23/50/motorcycle-68...

Re: The Vespa at 80

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I love Vespas. I have a bunch of old Hondas that are amazing for different reasons but they’re all motorcycles so people will randomly try to kill me to prove a point. But on a Vespa you can do anything and people will just smile and wave. Literally everyone loves them. I went on a day ride with some friends and while they were refilling their motorcycles I just rode circles around them in the gas station because I c…

Possibly the coolest thing I’ve ever seen was a guy coming up to an intersection on a Vespa. Somehow he chucked it sideways and skidded down the lane scrubbing off speed, then straightened up, split the lanes and hit the front as the light went green, and took off.

Completely alarming and rather dangerous to all around him.

Re: The Vespa at 80

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I have to agree that the amount of pollution these things put out is really a dealbreaker in modern times, in my opinion. They really smell up a street when they go by, it’s so noticeable after having mainly electric cars and bicycles going by.

You’re likely thinking of the old 2 strokes - the newer ones are much of a muchness with other 4 stroke motos.

What I mean is, all these gasoline powered scooters are terrible.
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