The first thing you do when you want to improve a metric is to start measuring it.
When you don’t care about that thing anymore you stop measuring it.
U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
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Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Because your rights (including property rights) are only what other people will respect, there is no true god head that swoops down to ensure it.
I'm not following what this comment is supposed to address from what I wrote.
The US government is taking some action (they take all sorts of actions people agree or disagree with, fund or defund various programs or initiatives), and because some people disagree with that action we should create a special tax levy on "some rich text workers" to pay for something that some number of citizens want to see exist despite the government that was democratically elected defunding that various program? Maybe when Democrats win we can just tax a few Anthropic employees and have them pay for the natural gas power plants that get shut down and then we can tax them again when Republicans shut down the wind and solar turbines. Perfect!
That, which is an accurate description of what was proposed, seems a bit unworkable, to say the least. Any why limit it to these sensors? Why not pay for all sorts of things? Let's just tax tech workers and they'll fund all sorts of activities that some political groups want to see happen?! lol that's so crazy and doesn't at all make sense in a democratic nation that respects the rule of law.
Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
The current administration doesn’t care about climate change, or believes it’s a hoax. Given this, they see no need to fund research and data gathering that tells them otherwise.
To be fair, the public in large also dgaf about climate change. Honestly, at this point, having natural disasters with destruction and death is probably the only way to make people care.
> Honestly, at this point, having natural disasters with destruction and death is probably the only way to make people care
We already have them. People just claim they're chance effects with no connection to climate change.
The problem with refuting it is that they are chance events, there's no way to definitively say "this was caused by climate change", because it's always possible it would have happened anyways. It's the upwards trend in frequency and severity that we can definitively point and say "that's caused by climate change", but that's too abstract for most people to understand.
Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#114As a physical oceanographer, the destruction of these observing systems is horrific. It is hard to stress enough how intentionally OMB is trying to disassemble American science. The new (proposed) OMB guidelines prohibit international collaboration without pre approval for example. They also codify a political grant approval process. https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/05/the-office-of-manage... Additionally, OMB is…
Can anyone explain that "anti-science" crusade to me? This doesn't seem to have any effect than reduce America's standing in the world.
They're isolationists. They do not care about America's standing in the world.
Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#115As a physical oceanographer, the destruction of these observing systems is horrific. It is hard to stress enough how intentionally OMB is trying to disassemble American science. The new (proposed) OMB guidelines prohibit international collaboration without pre approval for example. They also codify a political grant approval process. https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/05/the-office-of-manage... Additionally, OMB is…
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Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#116The scales of money at play always seem so strange. Oh a few hundred million for ocean sensors, or about what a few OpenAI / Cursor employees or a few hundred FAANG employees could personally fund if they desired to do so.
Lol Big Tech employees don’t have desires beyond money at any cost.
Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#117The scales of money at play always seem so strange. Oh a few hundred million for ocean sensors, or about what a few OpenAI / Cursor employees or a few hundred FAANG employees could personally fund if they desired to do so.
The US military budget is 900 billion dollars. The government can afford a few hundred million for some sensors, it should not need private sector patrons
The government has already paid for the sensors.
Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#118As a physical oceanographer, the destruction of these observing systems is horrific. It is hard to stress enough how intentionally OMB is trying to disassemble American science. The new (proposed) OMB guidelines prohibit international collaboration without pre approval for example. They also codify a political grant approval process. https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/05/the-office-of-manage... Additionally, OMB is…
Can anyone explain that "anti-science" crusade to me? This doesn't seem to have any effect than reduce America's standing in the world.
If you believe that our leadership is being influenced by actors such as Vladimir Putin, then you see that this is intended.
Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#119As a physical oceanographer, the destruction of these observing systems is horrific. It is hard to stress enough how intentionally OMB is trying to disassemble American science. The new (proposed) OMB guidelines prohibit international collaboration without pre approval for example. They also codify a political grant approval process. https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/05/the-office-of-manage... Additionally, OMB is…
Can anyone explain that "anti-science" crusade to me? This doesn't seem to have any effect than reduce America's standing in the world.
> reduce America's standing in the world.
That is the goal.
Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, that was fake news. The 300 billion dollars isn't coming from the US.
Specifically, it is unfreezing previously frozen/stolen assets that belong to Iran.
That's only part of it, the US and allies are reportedly going to set up a $300 billion fund for Iran, the particular terms of accessing it aren't clear at this point. GP is correct in that the US is not putting up $300 billion, but it will be putting up part of that money. The US fought and lost a war and Iran comes out ahead, and the US and its allies come out worse and poorer.