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Re: Claude Corps

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Taken verbatim from Anthropic’s Economic Policy Framework ( https://www.anthropic.com/policy-on-the-ai-exponential/epf ): > We are not seeking job displacement. We are working to prevent or minimize it. Some amount of displacement, though we cannot say how much, may be an intrinsic consequence of the technology, and our responsibility is to prepare for it and respond to it. That is what this framework is for. > Whate…

Hey, think critically about where you are on the internet. You're on a message board run by YCombinator, who's stated goal is to teach people to run startups. Startups are inherently disruptive. When one business disrupts another, people lose their jobs. Companies going out of business, either because of disruption, or because they ran themselves poorly, or other reasons, is part of the normal business cycle. Otherwi…

> Startups are inherently disruptive.

They are not, the disruption itself becoming the praiseworthy goal was not there initially. Initially, the rhetoric was about creating new things, building companies and booming economy.

It changed into disruption only later. At some point, disrupting became the praised thing, even if you was in the loss the whole time and did not really produced anything better.

Re: Claude Corps

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Taken verbatim from Anthropic’s Economic Policy Framework ( https://www.anthropic.com/policy-on-the-ai-exponential/epf ): > We are not seeking job displacement. We are working to prevent or minimize it. Some amount of displacement, though we cannot say how much, may be an intrinsic consequence of the technology, and our responsibility is to prepare for it and respond to it. That is what this framework is for. > Whate…

So what do you want them to do, then? Because I don't like it either, but they're right about their core tenet, which is that if they don't do it, someone else is going to. Even if we ignore the obvious other player in OpenAI, there's now dozens of labs in a handful of countries, the cat is thoroughly out of the bag. Is it annoying? Yeah. Is it preachy and hypocritical? Yeah. And I've yet to hear anyone suggest somet…

> And I've yet to hear anyone suggest something better.

While I reject their basic premise and think it is more marketing garbage, the answer sure as shit isn’t to try to monopolize the technology so that Anthropic can extract maximum rents from it.

Re: Claude Corps

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, think critically about where you are on the internet. You're on a message board run by YCombinator, who's stated goal is to teach people to run startups. Startups are inherently disruptive. When one business disrupts another, people lose their jobs. Companies going out of business, either because of disruption, or because they ran themselves poorly, or other reasons, is part of the normal business cycle. Otherwi…

> Startups are inherently disruptive. They are not, the disruption itself becoming the praiseworthy goal was not there initially. Initially, the rhetoric was about creating new things, building companies and booming economy. It changed into disruption only later. At some point, disrupting became the praised thing, even if you was in the loss the whole time and did not really produced anything better.

I actually think this happened around the time Silicon Valley stopped coming up with good ideas.

Re: Claude Corps

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Taken verbatim from Anthropic’s Economic Policy Framework ( https://www.anthropic.com/policy-on-the-ai-exponential/epf ): > We are not seeking job displacement. We are working to prevent or minimize it. Some amount of displacement, though we cannot say how much, may be an intrinsic consequence of the technology, and our responsibility is to prepare for it and respond to it. That is what this framework is for. > Whate…

Bad takes. > edicting grand policy plans to limit the impact of massive job displacement that their products might cause Your own job, assuming you're in the software industry, is to automate and eliminate people's jobs. How many jobs do you think it has eliminated? Do you feel you are responsible for your products? Is it ethical to do your job without thinking about and discussing its impacts? My take: being also in…

> Your own job, assuming you're in the software industry, is to automate and eliminate people's jobs. How many jobs do you think it has eliminated?

Looking at my career, literally none. For real.

> Is it ethical to do your job without thinking about and discussing its impacts?

I am not saving the planet nor people. I am not social worker, doctor nor anyone like that. But, I am not harming them either.

> At least Anthropic is talking about it. I never heard of, for example DeepSeek's position about the impacts of their products.

No, DeepSeek is not trying to create FOMO and fear based sales. DeepSeek is not pushing insulting ads on me and scary ads on my CEO. I dont even think they are all that much more ethical as a business necessarily, but oh my god, they managed to avoid the most off-putting propaganda in places where I see.

Re: Claude Corps

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This seems like one way to saddle nonprofits with functional, but potentially very expensive systems, set up by someone who helps them for a year then disappears and leaves them with no expertise to do long-term cost control or functionality improvements.

I don't suppose you have experience with how badly small non-profits are fucked by every tech consultancy they ever work with? They are paying for a service at the very top of their budget, and receiving services perceived from the bottom, as almost "pro bono" by the consultancy, via intern labour. They all have PTSD from the status quo. Getting nonprofits into AI that feels even marginally more self-serve, that is a…

Small non-profits I have seen did not worked with tech consultancies.

Re: Claude Corps

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> CodePath, an Anthropic nonprofit partner and America’s largest provider of collegiate computer science education, will act as the fellows’ official employer of record and lead programming during the fellowship. So your job is to be an FDE to sell Claude into non-profits.... but without ever actually working for Anthropic.

I mean some of the orgs could be like that, but the one near me I looked up (Durham, not affiliated to be clear), is more like an entry level gig to work on various projects (so you work for non-profit, but the orgs they work for may be public or private sector).

They mostly built phone apps oriented to public good projects. (So would just be using Claude Code to build the app itself, they wouldn't be calling Anthropic APIs behind the scenes, at least for those projects.)

Think $85k for an entry level gig subsidized by Anthropic. What is so bad about that?

Re: Claude Corps

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I guess this is no different than Google Summer of Code, Code for America, etc but with AI. If it actually helps these orgs and doesn't lock them into Anthropic pricing/models then sure, let it rip.

It is completely different then Google Summer of Code used to be. Google Summer of Code was not about selling google products and making organizations dependent on them.

This is pretty much opposite Google Summer of Code.

Re: Claude Corps

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see your point, but in this case we are not talking about disruption at the scale of a product category, vertical, or even an entire industry. AI companies are trying to disrupt entire sectors of the economy at the same time: knowledge work/white collar jobs, creative work (design, photo, video, ...), medical professions, etc. They are recognizing themselves in their economic policy framework that the lowest level…

AI companies are trying to disrupt entire sectors of the economy at the same time Talk to news companies, which whether newspapers, magazines, radio or TV, are basically either literally gone, or a shadow of their former selves. The best way to compare this, as you say is to even larger constructs, to entire sectors of the economy. Because you can harken this to desktop computers, or to the Internet. Sector after sec…

Sure I'll do the same for those other industries. It took generations and many deaths after each industrial revolution to address the harms caused by the technology. People's complaints about economic disruption have been proven to be legitimate and require fighting. This will spill into violence if these criticisms are not taken seriously.

Re: Claude Corps

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It's uncanny that they picked the term "Corps", which is exactly what Kurt Vonnegut used for the "Reconstruction and Reclamation Corps" in his 1952 novel, Player Piano. Also known as "Reeks and Wrecks" in the book, it's one of the two career paths, aside from joining the Army, for the workers displaced by machines and artificial intelligence. The irony seems to be lost on Anthropic. I enjoyed Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle…

It's not uncanny. They read dark science fiction as an instruction manual.

Re: Claude Corps

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what do you want them to do, then? Because I don't like it either, but they're right about their core tenet, which is that if they don't do it, someone else is going to. Even if we ignore the obvious other player in OpenAI, there's now dozens of labs in a handful of countries, the cat is thoroughly out of the bag. Is it annoying? Yeah. Is it preachy and hypocritical? Yeah. And I've yet to hear anyone suggest somet…

> And I've yet to hear anyone suggest something better. While I reject their basic premise and think it is more marketing garbage, the answer sure as shit isn’t to try to monopolize the technology so that Anthropic can extract maximum rents from it.

Right. Five years ago the idea was you needed the capitalism to fund compute/training. Now, its clear that open weight models could be a public good. If my PC takes my job I'm still empowered and can still capture that value, so if Anthropic were pursing that end it wouldn't seem so hypocritical.
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