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Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by everyone »

DANmode wrote: post #109
everyone wrote: post #69

I'm doing more and more on Linux Mint these days, but there are a few niche things that still only work good on Windows. Windows 10 LTSC 2021 IOT is great tbh.. Install it without internet and you dont need a MS account at all.

Do they still offer this ISO officially? Link? Thanks

I have no idea, I just have a copy from TPB. Its still supported tho. Still getting security updates. I think until 2030 ish? I'm not sure, I think the older versions of LTSC had longer guaranteed support than the newer ones.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by imp0cat »

hurtigioll wrote: post #80
wpm wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fedora is quite capable of doing absolutely nothing but opening Chrome and going to Facebook.

can you lock fedora down such that a few bad clicks dont disable the desktop manager and boots it into the terminal? this is the real problem with Linux on the desktop for non-power users

I guess you could use something like Fedora Silverblue if you feel like doing some initial explaining.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by davkan »

themafia wrote: post #63
tredre3 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That pretty much makes their builtin disk encryption useless. Does the encryption keep the user's data safe if the device is lost or stolen? Yes? Then it fulfills its main purpose.

Non technical users still write down their passwords. So: no. Do technical users have the option to install something better? Yes? Then this has no purpose.

For the vast majority of users bitlocker just means that if someone steals your laptop or you leave it on a bus then short of a concerted effort by someone with technical ability, no one will have your photos or tax documents. It absolutely serves a meaningful purpose even if it has significant shortcomings.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by moi2388 »

freediddy wrote: post #88

I was forced to switch to Windows 11 despite promising myself that I would never do this. WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I INCREASE THE WIDTH OF THE TASKBAR? I have a 30" monitor, I can afford to have 3 or 4 rows of windows in my task bar. But I can't, not because it's technically feasible but because a human at Microsoft that believes they are more important than their customers made a decision to remove that option because the…

Product owners are the worst thing to happen to products since sliced bread.

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Post by pmontra »

protocolture wrote: post #43
xg15 wrote: post #6

> "To avoid the next problem: 'Microsoft locked my data behind bitlocker, and now I can't get it back.' they need to store that key on the MS account." Doesn't that make the account requirement even more scary? So now if MS decides for some reason to lock my account, this will make even the data I have on my local disks inaccessible as well?

>Doesn't that make the account requirement even more scary? So now if MS decides for some reason to lock my account, this will make even the data I have on my local disks inaccessible as well? Depends. The average user would be more afraid if its not backed up online.

I'm afraid that the average user still does not think about backup. Sharing with other devices, probably yes, but the two concepts are only distant cousins.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by mjevans »

itsboring wrote: post #95
ivell wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. That's when I switched my kids' machines to Linux. That was just 2 months back. And was Windows 11 bug free, no. Was it easier to use, no. Absolutely irritating OS.

I switched my kids to Linux too. They have a multi-seat setup so now they can both use the PC at the same time. With the state of Linux gaming, we have yet to encounter a reason to boot back into Windows.

As a feature, the games that refuse to work under Linux tend to be the type that sell cosmetics or other things you probably don't want to deal with anyway. Or infuriating salty MOBA types.

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Post by cm2187 »

I enjoy windows 10 hugely now that it is out of support. It became way better when microsoft started tormenting the users of win11 instead of win10, and now that windows update doesn't bring new catastrophes and unexpected reboot, the OS is finally not interfering with usage anymore.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by pmontra »

awesomeusername wrote: post #113

Linux succeeded in the datacenter because of some atrocious choices MS made early on. Now it's going to succeed on the desktop for the same reason Bye bye windows

Random bits out of my memory in no particular order, except the first one:

First and foremost Linux was free, no money, no licenses, no procurement procedures, download and install.

Windows insisted to have a GUI even on servers and you had to remote desktop to them and click click click. That was how most of the world was using those NT 3.51 boxes.

It soon became PHP vs ASP and Java run on both OSes equally well.

There were still many Unix developers around and they picked up Linux at least as a deployment target.

Web servers were developed for Unix first. Porting to Linux was trivial. Porting to Windows not so. We had to wait for IIS.

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