But what about the stolen legos?
Measles surge in Utah sparks fears US could undo decades of progress
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Dig into say China’s political to social media connections China regulates social media in a way we don’t. The fundamental dynamic doesn’t apply there.
Even the US regulates social media. UK, Germany, South Africa, and Brazil are all interesting because of just how different yet similar a role social media plays in politics. First past the post vs representative representation create some really interesting points of divergence.
> Even the US regulates social media
Federally? Not really.
> UK, Germany, South Africa, and Brazil are all interesting because of just how different yet similar a role social media plays in politics
Could you expand on this?
Re: Measles surge in Utah sparks fears US could undo decades of progress
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
It erases immune memory, taking away antibodies to recently exposed diseases. It's best not to get it.
And by "it" you mean measles? Or do you mean the vaccine? Completely reverses the message of your post!
> And by "it" you mean measles?
Yes. They mean that measles "erases immune memory, taking away antibodies to recently exposed diseases.".
The grandparent was discussing their measles experience and the parent was responding to that.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The World Cup already started. But there are no games played in Utah For now, Utahns can travel freely to US states where World Cup games are played.
Relatively nobody in the US cares about soccer, much less travels for it.
Why don't you check the figures rather than confidently spouting nonsense?
Soccer rates as either the fourth or fifth largest sports in the USA depending on how you count it.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not "generational memory", it is an active campaign of lies and FUD by crooks, grifters and idiots.
It is not lies if Mr. Kennedy actually believes vaccines are harmful. Idiot, yes. Liar, no.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.
Re: Measles surge in Utah sparks fears US could undo decades of progress
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even the US regulates social media. UK, Germany, South Africa, and Brazil are all interesting because of just how different yet similar a role social media plays in politics. First past the post vs representative representation create some really interesting points of divergence.
> Even the US regulates social media Federally? Not really. > UK, Germany, South Africa, and Brazil are all interesting because of just how different yet similar a role social media plays in politics Could you expand on this?
> Federally? Not really.
TikTok is just one of many examples where the federal government has played a significant role. I mean you can debate about how relevant terrorism, CSAM, etc are here, but lots of debatably minor changes still add up.
> Could you expand on this?
It’s a lot to try and summarize in a comment, but just as an example. UK elections can take place early when a coalition breaks up this places a lot more power in the hands of voters and thus social media mid cycle. In the US passing unpopular legislation early means it’s less likely to be remembered next election cycle.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not "generational memory", it is an active campaign of lies and FUD by crooks, grifters and idiots.
I would say generational memory is a factor, if you've seen an uncle or a grandparent who'd had polio, or you're old enough that measles was a thing in your youth, and you've seen these ailments disappear over your lifetime, the lies and FUD will have a much harder time taking root. If these ailments are completely abstract in both their scope and personal effects, it's easier to be convinced by emotional manipulator…
Look at COVID conspiracies. We literally had images of patients in the hospital parking, because the hospital could not handle the tsunami of severe infections, but there are still people who believe that we should have let it rip.
Re: Measles surge in Utah sparks fears US could undo decades of progress
#118The CDC has a measles tracker that includes the number of annual cases since 1985 [1]. Measles was officially "eliminated" in the US in 2000. Technically it still has that status but outbreaks like this caused by low vaccination rates are threatening it [2], which is what the article is referring to. I'm old enough to have lived with Y2K. It's not really talked about much nowadays and I suspect a good number of peopl…
>Lots of people looked at that and unironically said that Y2K was a hoax. You're committing a fallacy of equivocation. "Y2K" has two distinct meanings: 1. A software bug related to date handling that could cause incorrect behavior that was unpredictable in the specifics but bounded in the kind and extent of damage it could cause. 2. A software bug that could cause the collapse of society. You might or might not remem…
The general idea was that 2 would arise from some combinations among tens of thousands of cases of 1 happening simultaneously. We don't really know what would have happened because we chose to fix or at least categorize the cases of 1.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well the screw worm thing happened because Elon Musk hired a bunch of twitter nazis to put the government through a wood chipper. This is the end result of decades snake oil moguls empowered by orin hatch and then turbo charged by people being furious that they weren't allowed to go to TGI Fridays for six months.
> This is the end result of decades snake oil moguls empowered by orin hatch What did Hatch do (I mostly know him as the paid servant of the copyright industry)?
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Go look up how people reacted to the Spanish flu. Or various religious death cults that pop up with regularity. This isn’t a modern thing - most people rely on their social network about what is true and those social networks can be infected with cultural disease and rot and die just like the body. The problem is that cultural diseases have impacts to the entire species since we’re social creatures and technology has…
> Go look up how people reacted to the Spanish flu “The Anti-Mask League was an organization formed in San Francisco, California, United States to protest an ordinance which required people in that city to wear masks during the 1918 influenza pandemic. The ordinance it protested lasted less than one month before being repealed. Due to the short period of the league's existence, its exact membership is difficult to de…
Yes, the world is one village. But a medieval village.. there is no lasting progress. Just lived experience preventing repetition, until it does not.
Which has major consequences, if you hand something that is prone to "tantrums" ever more powerfull technologies. It will blow itself up! And if you do not hand ever more powerfull technologies, that thing will throw a tantrum!