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Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine

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Post by eqvinox »

reaperducer wrote: post #101
themafia wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then I'd have to ask of publishers please don't use subscription oriented paywalls. I'd be happy to pay for an article here and there. I do not want to understand your subscription model, compare benefits between "tiers" of subscriptions, or think about how to cancel when I eventually realize I'm not getting the value I hoped for. This is the price of that dark pattern. These sites wouldn't exist if they acted like p…

Most digital subscriptions to large news organizations are in the order of $5 - $10/month. If you can't afford 16¢ a day, then you have bigger problems. If you don't want to pay monthly because you find it inconvenient, well boo hoo. Just do without. The world, and its journalists, don't owe you anything. I find the exercise of buying a car to be tedious. That doesn't justify me just driving one off the lot without p…

Except it's not one subscription, it's a subscription to whatever today's post links to. It sums up.

Same reason Netflix had massively reduced video piracy, and that piracy being back nowadays.

Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine

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Post by lukan »

pdonis wrote: post #108
lukan wrote: post #75

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So .. who is the trueborn king today? I believe there is no shortage of aspirants.

> who is the trueborn king today? Of course there isn't one; the notion of the "rightful king" in Middle-Earth does not have a real world counterpart. Tolkien might have believed it did, since he was a Catholic and might have believed in some version of the divine right of kings that the church supported for many centuries. But even then, the power the "rightful king" has in Middle-Earth is very limited. There is no…

"Not one in a million is fit for it"

But one every 2 million?

It does not sound too libertarian to me, but I've known monarchist libertarians, so it is a spectrum I think.

Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine

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Post by goldenarm »

Barrin92 wrote: post #34
goldenarm wrote: post #20

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Anduril is quite a positive name, it is a broken sword reforged later to save humankind. Quite a metaphor about western reindustrialization.

except of course that Tolkien, as a Catholic was quite adamant that he didn't write a story of Western chauvinism. The sword is not a metaphor for industrialization, which is quite literally the villain of the story, it's a symbol for restored kingship and hope.

You misunderstood me, Palmer Luckey made a metaphor when picking the name, not Tolkien of course.

Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine

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Post by reaperducer »

eqvinox wrote: post #111
reaperducer wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most digital subscriptions to large news organizations are in the order of $5 - $10/month. If you can't afford 16¢ a day, then you have bigger problems. If you don't want to pay monthly because you find it inconvenient, well boo hoo. Just do without. The world, and its journalists, don't owe you anything. I find the exercise of buying a car to be tedious. That doesn't justify me just driving one off the lot without p…

Except it's not one subscription, it's a subscription to whatever today's post links to. It sums up. Same reason Netflix had massively reduced video piracy, and that piracy being back nowadays.

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Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine

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Post by pdonis »

lukan wrote: post #112
pdonis wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> who is the trueborn king today? Of course there isn't one; the notion of the "rightful king" in Middle-Earth does not have a real world counterpart. Tolkien might have believed it did, since he was a Catholic and might have believed in some version of the divine right of kings that the church supported for many centuries. But even then, the power the "rightful king" has in Middle-Earth is very limited. There is no…

"Not one in a million is fit for it" But one every 2 million? It does not sound too libertarian to me, but I've known monarchist libertarians, so it is a spectrum I think.

> But one every 2 million?

I think that was a figure of speech, the intended meaning of which was "nobody is really fit for it".

Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine

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Post by pandoro »

abc123abc123 wrote: post #84
pandoro wrote: post #79

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Switzerland is not part of the European union (nor a member of the European Economic Area) but your point still stands

OP did not say EU, he said europe. Switzerland is part of europe.

You're right that's my mistake, I misread OP's comment

Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine

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Post by mindslight »

pstuart wrote: post #103
mindslight wrote: post #95

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Money is just a metric. I'd say their real ideology is power. It's the classic authoritarian delusion that has fueled every "web 2.0" startup, now writ large - it's okay if we centralize power, because we will only ever use the power for good . Of course this completely ignores how power agglomerates in the real world, especially in the presence of the strong Moloch attractor accelerator that is state-orchestrated ca…

Here are some key quotes from the linked article: But Karp, Steinberger told me, needed “to find a reason beyond just opportunism and necessity” to embrace Trumpism. His reasoning, however, is so incoherent it seems pretextual. Toward the end of the book, Steinberger quotes Karp lambasting the left for failing to adequately address antisemitism, chaos at the border and the threat of Iran. “I’m sick and tired of left-…

I haven't been able to discern any motive to the grassroots maggot movement that isn't spite, or more charitably, wanting to make themselves heard actual results be damned.

Even when you put on your hat of thinking "what policies are they upset about here, and how can they actually be solved?", the actions of the regime are just performative. There was a political mandate with control of Congress, and yet all of these changes are being made by executive fiat ?

Put aside your personal policy desires for a minute. "Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48454210). This should never have happened with any halfway competent administration that bothered to put the appropriate legislation through Congress, right? It's almost like the goal is for these pushes to eventually fail, so they can go right back to blaming "liberals".

As far as Karp, this is just basic rationalization. You can see the same dynamic play out in many HN comments. They absolve themselves of agency to remain blameless for supporting wanton destruction.

Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine

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Post by pstuart »

mindslight wrote: post #118
pstuart wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here are some key quotes from the linked article: But Karp, Steinberger told me, needed “to find a reason beyond just opportunism and necessity” to embrace Trumpism. His reasoning, however, is so incoherent it seems pretextual. Toward the end of the book, Steinberger quotes Karp lambasting the left for failing to adequately address antisemitism, chaos at the border and the threat of Iran. “I’m sick and tired of left-…

I haven't been able to discern any motive to the grassroots maggot movement that isn't spite , or more charitably, wanting to make themselves heard actual results be damned. Even when you put on your hat of thinking "what policies are they upset about here, and how can they actually be solved?", the actions of the regime are just performative. There was a political mandate with control of Congress, and yet all of the…

It's mind-blowing, isn't it? I've tracked Presidential politics since Watergate and these times feel like we've entered another universe.

I have two associates who are MAGA, and they are both devout Christians. I don't think that's a coincidence. I think that many or even most Christians are so in name only, and the only part they care about is the authoritarian part. The irony of them literally worshipping a man who fits the description of the AntiChrist to a T would be hilarious if we didn't have to suffer through it.

And one of the biggest pain points of all is that a lot of otherwise intelligent people have been brainwashed into this and are literally incapable of recognizing that or more importantly, to be able to discuss policy in a rational and fact-based matter.

I'll say it again here loudly: I've yet to encounter a Trump supporter who isn't an intellectual coward when it comes to evaluating the policies and actions of this and the prior admins. They cannot face reality. It saddens me -- I take no pleasure in this.

Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine

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Post by psd1 »

holistio wrote: post #89
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #54

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Thanks, damn. I usually look up that phrase so I can copy and paste it with the proper accents (and, uh, spelling).

To quote a classic: "Knowledge is power, France is bacon." (look it up if you're unfamiliar, it's something that makes me giggle every time I think of it)

Time flies like an arrow

Fruit flies like a banana

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