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Re: Codex for open source

#111

The amount of gift-horse-mouth-looking in this thread is amazing to me. How dare they only give me this much free stuff! I want that much free stuff!

I want my license fee from my software that they trained their models on.

(Actually I don't, I want their stuff as Free Software and I mean everything, training data, pipelines and all)

Re: Codex for open source

#112
I wouldn't use anything but open weights models for developing open source software. This is just training OpenAI and Anthropic to steal your work for their proprietary models.

Re: Codex for open source

#114

I wouldn't use anything but open weights models for developing open source software. This is just training OpenAI and Anthropic to steal your work for their proprietary models.

The crux of open source: per definition it is opened for the public to use it.

I see it as a chance. Many OS projects themselves offer LLM readable websites, their docs.

This way the project at least not only gets ingested but receives referential treatment.

Some sort of collaboration. Ingested it will be, anyway.

Re: Codex for open source

#116

I wouldn't use anything but open weights models for developing open source software. This is just training OpenAI and Anthropic to steal your work for their proprietary models.

If your license is open then Anthropic and OpenAI are using your work anyway.

Re: Codex for open source

#118

I wouldn't use anything but open weights models for developing open source software. This is just training OpenAI and Anthropic to steal your work for their proprietary models.

If your license is open then Anthropic and OpenAI are using your work anyway.

the user prompts and harness used for development are much more valuable for training than the final source code.

my approach to open source development with AI now is to include all of the agent sessions used in development in the repository, which makes this data freely available for training for both proprietary and open weights models, but that is just my own approach. every open source developer ultimately has to make their own judgement on the best way to integrate AI in accordance with their values.

Re: Codex for open source

#119

I wouldn't use anything but open weights models for developing open source software. This is just training OpenAI and Anthropic to steal your work for their proprietary models.

The crux of open source: per definition it is opened for the public to use it. I see it as a chance. Many OS projects themselves offer LLM readable websites, their docs. This way the project at least not only gets ingested but receives referential treatment. Some sort of collaboration. Ingested it will be, anyway.

> I see it as a chance

absolutely. AI is the same as any other software, and open source has to integrate, adapt, and lead to make sure that open source values continue to propagate.

my personal approach is to focus on developing with open weights models, so that my work is optimized for them, and leads to their development. proprietary labs are free to copy, but they have a structural cost disadvantage. my objective is that open weights models remain competitive on capability but lead on capability/cost.

Re: Codex for open source

#120
post #87

Same as Anthropic's similar offer, they're only giving 6 months free. This really just feels like a way to get OSS maintainers hooked so they buy subscriptions after the free period is over. If they were really serious about supporting OSS, they'd offer it for free perpetually (well, with periodic checks to ensure the maintainers are still affiliated with the project). Anything less just makes it look like a marketin…

is there any company or product that donates their subscription service free forever ?
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