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Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by 05 »

okanat wrote: post #68
Narishma wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have been saying this for years, yet Raspberry Pis just keep on selling with no trouble.

RPis get sold more to the businesses and startups that started with them in 2010s, rather than hobbyists now. If you cannot negotiate a good deal with the big industrial silicon manufacturers but you want good up-to-date kernels, RPis are a perfect option. There are SoMs or SBCs with other CPUs like NXP or MediaTek that has more or less mainline support. However, they ask more money. The kernel contributions are also…

There are also lots of cheaper SoMs if you're not allergic to Chinese chipsets, and the cheaper ones tend to have PoP on-package DDR so you can spin your own 4-layer PCB without having to pull your hair out impedance matching DDR3+ traces. That, of course, if you can fit into ~64MB RAM.

> The kernel contributions are also a bit on the shakier side which requires spending expensive developer time to deal with kernel

NXP/i.MX are way better at mainline kernel than Broadcom that RPi is based on, come on.. and they have cheaper options like i.MX 9 series. Other vendors, yes, mainline support could be pretty spotty.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by bityard »

chrissnell wrote: post #34

My home cluster is built from surplus Dell Optiplex desktops that I got from BYU Surplus and added some RAM (before RAM price went totally bananas) and SSDs to. I spent less than the cost of one of these Pis to acquire all of them together. I later added a large machine that I used to use as a Linux desktop, with a GPU and 64GB RAM, which I use for generating OpenStreetMap tiles.

How much power does that cluster consume?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Aurornis wrote: post #65
jrflo wrote: post #55

Who would've thought the $50 pi 5 I bought on a whim would be my best performing asset in the last few years

$50 would have bought the 2GB model at launch. The 2GB model is now $65, so don’t get too excited.

I checked my email and I paid $60 for the 4GB model in 2023. >2x returns in 3 years isn't so bad.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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xnyan wrote: post #91
MallocVoidstar wrote: post #51

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It's useful if you need GPIO but not $350 useful. Nowadays you can get used office mini PCs with a 10th gen Intel and 16GB RAM for like $200 and they'll come with an SSD. No idea why anyone would buy an expensive Pi.

It's not the GPIO, it's the software ecosystem for anything you would want to connect to the GPIO.

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by bigyabai »

steveBK123 wrote: post #103

It's crazy how Raspberry Pi & Apple prices have moved in converging direction. Pi 5 8GB is $200 MacBook Neo 8GB is $600 (probably some edu discount available) Sure 3x the price, but it comes with - 256GB SSD, battery, display, keyboard, trackpad.. So the Pi has slowly become too expensive for weird one-off projects and also price competitive with a cheap Mac by the time you add all the stuff you need to use it as a c…

I dunno, it's not unexpected. Smartphone hardware has been cheaper, more proliferate and faster than Raspberry Pis for a while. The Pi Foundation finds a market by supporting Linux, documenting GPIO and Arduino/hat ecosystems, and advocating for a hackier, server-like approach with the cheap hardware. Game consoles, smartphones and consumer laptops are often powerful, but priced taking the customer's service revenue into account.

My Raspberry Pi is definitely outclassed by a few of my old phones and laptops. But it's also super pleasant to host services on, so it's my go-to SBC.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by zerobees »

steveBK123 wrote: post #103

It's crazy how Raspberry Pi & Apple prices have moved in converging direction. Pi 5 8GB is $200 MacBook Neo 8GB is $600 (probably some edu discount available) Sure 3x the price, but it comes with - 256GB SSD, battery, display, keyboard, trackpad.. So the Pi has slowly become too expensive for weird one-off projects and also price competitive with a cheap Mac by the time you add all the stuff you need to use it as a c…

Having had a subscription to Hack-a-Day for a long time, I firmly believe that the vast majority of "weird one-off" Raspberry Pi projects don't actually need anything as capable as a Raspberry Pi SBC. It's just a matter of brand recognition and familiarity. If it gets too expensive, I suspect that more users will migrate to microcontrollers than to gutted notebooks.

You don't even need to learn anything new, I'm sure you can ask Claude to vibe code something on RP2350 nowadays and there's an 80% chance it will work.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Post by cladopa »

Every time I see entitled people crying because of the prices of a Rasperry Py I remember my first computer that had hundred of megahertz's speed and megabytes of RAM.

I could do very useful things with that machine. So it is not the end of the world if we have to go back to a world when you merely have thousands of times more memory for 4 times less money.

It could even be positive if it forces people to be more efficient writing code and wasting less resources.

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