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Re: Apple Core AI Framework

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Post by LoganDark » Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 3:41 AM UTC

jkman wrote: post #100

LoganDark wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My reading of it is: - Core ML is for models designed only for Apple platforms - MLX is for models that don't need to be fast - Core AI is for models that run everywhere already and also need to be fast

This view is a bit off. First, keep in mind that MLX was and will not be able to access the ANE, so it's a total non-starter for anything user-facing. Based on updates to coreml docs, they're trying to sell CoreML as the tool for tabular or domain-specific applications and CoreAI for NNs moving forward.

> keep in mind that MLX was and will not be able to access the ANE

That's the rationale behind it not being fast.

> so it's a total non-starter for anything user-facing

Yep.

Re: Apple Core AI Framework

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Post by ABS » Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 8:41 AM UTC

franze wrote: post #7

i am more excited about the ondevice foundation model update that is coming https://developer.apple.com/documentation/updates/foundation... (not much info yet) but i maintain https://github.com/Arthur-Ficial/apfel so i might be biased

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Re: Apple Core AI Framework

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Post by mswphd » Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 2:11 PM UTC

tyre wrote: post #56

mswphd wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and no. Qwen 3.5 was released 3/2/2026. It includes models up to a 397B-A17B model https://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen35 A day afterwards, a high-up technical leader working on Qwen was let go https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/03/alibabas-qwen-tech-lead-st... The more recent Qwen 3.6 was released on 4/16 https://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen36 This does not include any particularly large models. But…

If they stop releasing their larger models because they want to monetize, would we expect them to release better small models that can outcompete those?

there's pros and cons to it for them. Clearly, they get good branding (at least in enthusiast circles). Perhaps more important is they get community work on optimization. There have been significant performance uplifts on the Qwen3.6 models from the open-source community since they were launched (at a minimum, multi-token prediction is now working with them. It is almost a 2x token generation speedup)

https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLM/comments/1ti9w4o/qwen3635b...

Re: Apple Core AI Framework

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Post by meyusufdemirci » Tue, Jun 16, 2026, 11:04 AM UTC

Waiting for the on device models specially. They will be game changers if they will be clever models enough. BTW, I also have an recap article of Core AI framework, https://appcircle.io/blog/wwdc26-apple-core-ai-framework-exp...