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Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by somethingsome »

f4stjack wrote: post #72
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

The best thing you can do with an enterprise Onedrive is having long long file and folder names. The moment it exceeds 255 characters, the software application dies. I am ready to hear easier fixes but so far this worked: - Rename the offending folder from the web - Unlink the folder from the user's machine - Delete the existing onedrive folder - Relink and resync The best part is, the web side of onedrive has practi…

My workplace has named (forcefully) the onedrive folder with around 35 characters. You add to that the path to that folder on the computer that is (forcefully) not on the root of a disk. I now mostly need a flat structure for my files. 4-5 subfolders and a file and onedrive dies.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by amarcheschi »

reddalo wrote: post #108
amarcheschi wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The university I attend uses SharePoint, classroom and moodle for various courses. SharePoint is by far the worst piece of software I've ever used. Like, there's no mental model to be done, not intuitive, not working, files disappear from time to time, and I could go on for hours

Moodle is also pretty garbage-y if I may say so.

I'd say its ui is not that great and it is not intuitive when searching courses, but at least it... Works? I mean, using SharePoint might require me to reload the page more than once because I literally don't see the files sometimes

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by cryo32 »

f4stjack wrote: post #72
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

The best thing you can do with an enterprise Onedrive is having long long file and folder names. The moment it exceeds 255 characters, the software application dies. I am ready to hear easier fixes but so far this worked: - Rename the offending folder from the web - Unlink the folder from the user's machine - Delete the existing onedrive folder - Relink and resync The best part is, the web side of onedrive has practi…

An elderly family member rearranged her family tree into folders that were so deep it broke onedrive entirely.

Of course it was not set to keep all files on the PC so it just trashed them.

Be careful.

I turned onedrive off and removed it. Then just cross fingers she drops dead before the disk does. If I go over there I robocopy it onto a USB stick.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by Tangurena2 »

cinntaile wrote: post #79
f4stjack wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best thing you can do with an enterprise Onedrive is having long long file and folder names. The moment it exceeds 255 characters, the software application dies. I am ready to hear easier fixes but so far this worked: - Rename the offending folder from the web - Unlink the folder from the user's machine - Delete the existing onedrive folder - Relink and resync The best part is, the web side of onedrive has practi…

You can change that setting in Windows so that it no longer has a 255 character limit.

Win64 lacks the problem with 255 characters [0]. However, stuff like File Explorer, which the vast majority of my users actually use, can only pass the first 255 characters to the registered application [1], so will Explorer will display stuff with huge long paths, double-clicking that file, or right clicking and "Compress to..." will cause an error.

0 - 32 bit windows will always have this problem.

1 - This is because File Explorer uses a hodgepodge of Win32 and Win64 stuff behind the scenes when running 64 bit windows.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by somethingsome »

cryo32 wrote: post #62

Don’t put your data in onedrive at all. We’ve experienced multiple cases of data loss which were definitely either implementation bugs or files simply being unreadable or lost.

At least onedrive do not corrupt my powerpoints, while pcloud systematically break them, police change, elements resized randomely. It happens systematically with powerpoints weighting more than 100Mb.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by Tangurena2 »

al_borland wrote: post #65
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

I’ve seen a lot of people have issues with git, because this is going on in the background and they don’t realize it. They’ll change branches, then OneDrive sees files are missing, so it starts pulling them back down. It makes a mess. Any new hire we get, we need to make sure to explicitly tell them not to keep their code in a folder managed by OneDrive, but they never listen. They speak up about a month later, compl…

This is why we had to add some group policy changes to ban One Drive throughout our agency. Additionally, some of our work is "confidential" and non-public which also got the legislature to ban the use of One Drive for most stuff (they specifically stated "cloud").

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by cryo32 »

somethingsome wrote: post #115
cryo32 wrote: post #62

Don’t put your data in onedrive at all. We’ve experienced multiple cases of data loss which were definitely either implementation bugs or files simply being unreadable or lost.

At least onedrive do not corrupt my powerpoints, while pcloud systematically break them, police change, elements resized randomely. It happens systematically with powerpoints weighting more than 100Mb.

I wouldn’t use any cloud stuff for any Microsoft document formats. Copy it in after you’ve done the work at most.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by Tangurena2 »

mrweasel wrote: post #10

> Let me paint a familiar picture. Someone leaves your organisation, or a licence gets removed as part of a cost-saving exercise. That's a rather weird way of phrasing it. It almost suggested that you shouldn't audit your license needs. Other than this was always the case, it's hard to see why data stored in a close account wouldn't get deleted.

> or a licence gets removed as part of

Or, as is more common in large enterprise licensing schemes - the vendor changes the terms and the customer never notices. And the .gov side of Microsoft licensing changes as often and as inscrutably as the commercial side of Microsoft licensing.

We've had more than a few discussions where conference calls with Microsoft end with the "oh, that used to be part of your license, but now it isn't" with the only solution being to bend over and open up the agency's wallet.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by [deleted] »

liamwire wrote: post #21
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

Come on, a problem nobody really had? I wholeheartedly disagree. Data loss and the orthogonal problem of lacking free space on computers is/was a massive problem at enterprise scale and OneDrive, for all its many shortcomings, is well and truly into good-enough territory to cover the 80% case. I'd go so far as to argue that the scenario you've described is by far the less frequent one. And if it frustrates you, you'r…

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Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by g8oz »

Here is one approach for the frustrated end user forced to deal with OneDrive: Create a local user account and do all your work in there. Periodically manually upload important folders to your OneDrive workspace. Manually upload relevant files to shared team folders. Keep the Microsoft Edge browser as your SharePoint workspace. Work on shared Office artifacts through the Edge browser. Use Chrome or Firefox for everything else.

Results may vary depending on your organization's configuration and policies. You may get labeled as a rogue employee.

But if you keep code synced with GitHub, keep Confluence docs updated, stay responsive when shared docs need your input, people might never notice.

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