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I've done it twice. First when an $evil company aquired the place I worked, and the second time when an $evil company aquired the place I worked (the second one being Oracle and Sun, as described in the anthropomorphizing Ellison speech better than I can).
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> You must look around and see the lack of men, and force yourself to become one. As a man I need you to expand on this because I'm trying to imagine what concrete actions you think "a man" would do in this circumstance, and of the things I've come up with the only one I think I'm allowed to say on this forum is "quit and find a new job."
Why complicate this? It's a well defined, harmless phrase. We don't have to pretend it's a touchy gender-related issue.
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Yes, I guess investments, etc., but 1.5 years is a long time. I don't think I could go more than 2-3 months. Maybe I should start saving some money.
Location matters a LOT. The parent comment mentioned North America. This is huge. Tech salaries in Europe are half what they are in NA. In India, they're like 1/4 to 1/3. Saving is absolutely important, especially in such a layoff-ridden industry. You should really strive to get at least 6 months of living expenses into savings.
Not that it means you'll be raking in a lot of surplus money, but that's also not directly tied to the size of your salary.
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Might be needed if your salary expense has to be charged back to various internal accounts or to external clients. My first job was salaried, but I had to fill out a time sheet so clients could be billed.
Filling out a time sheet and clocking in and out are two different things. I have to fill in a time sheet, but I never ever clock in and out. If someone clocks in and out, they don't need a timesheet. It's automatically recorded.
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> You must look around and see the lack of men, and force yourself to become one. As a man I need you to expand on this because I'm trying to imagine what concrete actions you think "a man" would do in this circumstance, and of the things I've come up with the only one I think I'm allowed to say on this forum is "quit and find a new job."
What do you mean, allowed to say on this forum? Who is around to stop you from saying what you mean? Is this some kind of dramatic display of your secondary status? What responsibility for you are you asking me to take?
This forum is ran by my fellow man, dang, who expects a certain level of decorum and discretion, and it would be ungentlemanly to act otherwise. A Real Man knows to keep his cards close to his chest. It's a violation of the Bro Code to say some stuff out loud, my dude.
> What responsibility for you are you asking me to take?
I'm asking you to explain what actions you think OP, as a Man, should take in this situation. Quit (quietly or loudly)? Refuse and get fired? Something else?
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What do you mean, allowed to say on this forum? Who is around to stop you from saying what you mean? Is this some kind of dramatic display of your secondary status? What responsibility for you are you asking me to take?
> What do you mean, allowed to say on this forum? This forum is ran by my fellow man, dang, who expects a certain level of decorum and discretion, and it would be ungentlemanly to act otherwise. A Real Man knows to keep his cards close to his chest. It's a violation of the Bro Code to say some stuff out loud, my dude. > What responsibility for you are you asking me to take? I'm asking you to explain what actions you…
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"Men" is colloquially used here to mean "decent people", "strong people", "principled people", etc. It's a generic positive description ("Be a man", "Man up"). Younger generations might bristle at this use of the word, and that's fine, but try to give the benefit of the doubt (in fact, it's a rule on HN).
As an older generation man, I've tried to understand the touchiness here. This is dangerous territory, so I hope you try to read my intent here, even if the packaging is not as strong as I want it to be. The best analogy I can come up with is the smurf village: Every smurf has an identity, describing a bunch of mannerism. Baker smurf, strong smurf, joke smurf ... The smurfette is both the only adult female and a sepa…
Extremely online people find the sweet contention in everything and act accordingly.
As for the [*] I did assume that the target was male because of the content of the writing. But if they were female they are presumably going to be no more or less able to discern the value.
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You asked for a thing to research. So go do that and report back. Maybe it’s bullshit. Maybe you’ll do some research, be inspired, and change the whole world. I dunno. I’m not an economist… have you asked an economist? Edited to add: hey I found a use for AI; here’s a prompt for your favorite model: “What economic systems have humans devised over the course of recorded history?” :)
I did. You implied in your first comment that being against capitalism didn't mean being in favor or socialism, but it is because they're the only modern economic systems. So, I guess I can keep going without changing my mind.
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What do you mean, allowed to say on this forum? Who is around to stop you from saying what you mean? Is this some kind of dramatic display of your secondary status? What responsibility for you are you asking me to take?
> What do you mean, allowed to say on this forum? This forum is ran by my fellow man, dang, who expects a certain level of decorum and discretion, and it would be ungentlemanly to act otherwise. A Real Man knows to keep his cards close to his chest. It's a violation of the Bro Code to say some stuff out loud, my dude. > What responsibility for you are you asking me to take? I'm asking you to explain what actions you…