I will always be grateful to her for so touchingly letting me in to her life, in a special part of the world, at a unique time of it’s existence
French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56
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Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56
#112I rewatched it recently and it’s still such a good movie.
I’ll always remember the outrage I felt when they go to the hospital when her father needs heart surgery and they have to pretend not to know the hospital director because he was previously their janitor and they were afraid to embarrass him by acknowledging that and not getting treatment. Absurdity.
Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56
#113I always enjoyed the first half of Persepolis. Told from Satrapi's perspective, it was a very relatable story about a young child who was swept up by the world events around her, and tried to rebel in very normal, child-like ways. It was very relatable in that abstract sense, even if most of us have not been through a violent revolution. (and even more violent subsequent war with a neighboring state) The second half…
That "bad" part is where her story becomes more valuable.
Literature has many idealistic heroes, which are also patronising, in a sense.
Satrapi makes us self reflect, which is much better, and much more real.
In contrast, I'm really tired of the catholic fiction, it's always the same. Like written by an AI, but from the year 1100.
Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
I kind of resent that "western" started to be used as synonym for "America". Specifically this particular schema along with insistence with happy ending is specific feature of American book writing and cinema. Non American literature is much more likely to go out of that schematic. To whoever is downvoting this: it is not even a criticism. Just a description. When you discuss stories, Americans will frequently insist…
I'm talking about something much broader than the saccharine happy ending motif of Disney movies. I'm paraphrasing The Hero with a Thousand Faces which is a study of world mythology, not 20th century American storytelling. This hero story is found around the world but PARTICULARLY in descendants of the proto-indo-european culture, particularly ancient Greece and the western Roman empire. It's not "happy endings" I'm…
And I am saying that when I read western literature from Europe, a LOT of it was not hero journey thing.
I am saying that hero journey as you desribe it is absolutely NOT the only western narrative, if you include non american literature. And I am saying that when someone insist on that being the only narrative, they are typically american.
And someone else (who probably reads more american then me) told me even american literature actually contains other narratives too.
Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56
#115I read all the persepolis comics a long time ago and to my memory it was the first time I cried reading a comic. A beautiful work of art. I would recommend to anyone reading this comment to order the first book.
Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56
#116I rewatched it recently and it’s still such a good movie. I’ll always remember the outrage I felt when they go to the hospital when her father needs heart surgery and they have to pretend not to know the hospital director because he was previously their janitor and they were afraid to embarrass him by acknowledging that and not getting treatment. Absurdity.
Would recommend reading the comic instead
Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56
#117The movie was really beautifully done and I've wanted to read the book itself. Rest in peace.
I would recommend the book over it
Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's jarring to many people is it isn't the three act hero's journey of a noble savage. The "something" going on is that it isn't a copy of just about the only narrative in western mythos: 1. Departure - from a humble background the subject leaves amid struggle 2. Growth and Initiation - the subject discovers who they are building themselves into the hero they'll become 3. Heroic Return - the now hero makes a retur…
Persepolis absolutely DOES use the “hero’s journey” narrative archetype you’re claiming it avoids. The second part even ends by explicitly stating that she has grown into a different person, and is now ready to “face the world” when she leaves her family for the second time. Indeed, the story is quite Western overall, which is perhaps unsurprising, given that the author had already been living in the West for over a…
You mean Iran had been pushing itself west/modern and was quite western by 1979. So she was raised as a young girl into a western context, despite that people now want to deny this existed.
Even back then the mullahs and islam were looked upon as an external occupation force to some extent. Now 10x worse of course, but even back then. A lot of people seem to want to see some sort of alternative/sufficiently different state/society succeed, even if that means totally falsifying history.
Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe there is a qualitative difference between the governing systems in a country that tries to regulate personal appearances, and one that would shift it's military to the other side of the planet, bombing and murdering Iranian school children and civilians en-masse for no particular reason. I also believe that your claim of seven "official allowed" haircuts is bs, as with almost everything I ever read about Ir…
> EDIT: I have been shadowbanned, again, by HN. I check this by opening this thread in a private tab, not logged in, and notice my most recent comment is not visible. > I wasn't personally insulting nor aggressive in any comment I have made. I didn't spread disinformation. This thread is inherently political by nature, and I have been objective. > It just goes to show, even here on HN, if you don't stick to the "THIS…
They made it political. We were just having a non-political thread about an author famous for critiquing the Iran government. Then they made it political.
Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56
#120I read Persepolis in French, and I don't speak French as a native language, so I worry that I missed some of the art and the nuance of it. But, even so, I thought it was beautiful. She was an extremely talented storyteller, and I'm sad that she left us so soon.