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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by embedding-shape »

casey2 wrote: post #106
torben-friis wrote: post #60

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

It's like asking someone to deadlift a dresser and move it to another room, even though they have a dolly right next to them. Should they be able to? It depends. Should you expect them to? No, that's just odd.

No, it's like asking someone "Would you like to have a coffee?" and they responds by pointing at a Starbucks and saying "Sure, go over there, they have coffee you can buy".

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by agumonkey »

torben-friis wrote: post #60

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

Not trying to defend ai but I observed another mode: what used to be bored dev chats where people avoided topics or started feuds, now it's "well Claude suggests...". It's not great but it's a short form of improvement somehow. (Sure I'd prefer passionate convos steering toward innovation, but that's been a rare sight in my career)

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by dabbledash »

hypfer wrote: post #26

AI has "just" greatly accelerated/amplified dysfunction that was already there previously. Even before AI, you often weren't truly talking with other real people on the web. Even if it was an actual human that responded, online tribalism led to erasure of said human-ness. So from that standpoint, being exhausted by not talking to real humans might be good or at least necessary.

The sad thing is it happens in real life too. You'll talk to people and it's like 25% of their brain has been taken over by a parasite that replicates itself by amplifying their tribe's Talking Point of The Day. You have to just wait for them to get it out and then you can talk to the real person again.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by embedding-shape »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #97
thunfischtoast wrote: post #47

AI makes it apparent that the only value some people bring to the table is that they have access to information that you do not. If now they fold that one advantage by just delegating everything to AI (which is in the same position as you informationwise), they will remove themselves from the worker pool soon.

Try prompting Claude to fix an arbitrary code base better than someone who knows it, when you're a random non-technical person. Try prompting Claude for legal advice and getting as good of results as Lawyer would if you're a layperson. Try prompting Claude for medical advice if you're not a doctor... I would hope these people are AT A MINIMUM screening the responses they get before passing them off. There's value in…

> I would hope these people are AT A MINIMUM screening the responses they get before passing them off

The co-founder of Anthropic isn't even doing this when preparing statements to say after the Pope has spoken about AI, I think you're expecting a bit too much here.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely think that's a must too, but I also think people should test software extensively before deploying/releasing it, seemingly nowadays I'm in the minority about these sort of things.

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Post by coldtea »

mrweasel wrote: post #50
cedws wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s more mass manipulation AKA nudge campaigns going on than ever. Plus, there’s a market for “aged” (forgot the term they actually used) accounts that look authentic.

Are you suggesting that people have bots answering question on place like AskReddit in an effort to nudge society in a certain direction? That would explain why much of Reddit, Instagram and Facebook is so completely unhinged, but that is just a wild way of influencing the world, and to what end?

Likely the classics: voting a certain way, supporting a certain state, supporting a certain cause, and buying things.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by patates »

> But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer.

Those people obviously don't want to talk to you/"other people" or not interested in the topic you're talking about or both.

Find people who want to talk to you, and avoid spaces where this is less likely to happen.

Funny thing is, when this happened to me, I asked AI to give me ideas (because online I just couldn't find people to talk to except on HN) and the best idea it had was finding smaller/niche forums and real-world gatherings around me.

At least nowadays, when you see the person talking in real world, it's fairly easy to tell human from android.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by pprotas »

A year ago (or so) I had a colleague whose messages were all obviously AI-generated. I told them that it felt weird that they were sending me AI answers in Slack and code reviews, and they stopped doing it.

Not an interesting story, just wanted to share that the other party might not be aware of how this comes across on the people that have to read their AI messages.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by simondotau »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #84
simondotau wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

”You can outsource your thinking, but you can’t outsource your understanding” — probably some AI

Wasn't some AI, it was Andrej Karpathy and he got it from someone else (unattributed).

I didn't provide a citation because its origins are unclear/unclaimed, so instead it was an opportunity for a chuckle. FWIW I first read it when this guy's tweet was retweeted by Andrej.

https://x.com/yacineMTB/status/2018886083120153046

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