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Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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We should note these are not even slightly legitimate hosting companies, lest anyone worry too much about their non-KYC offshore servers. These aren't hosting companies that ask little, they are just directly front companies for Russian intelligence, owned by members of Russian intelligence, they don't do anything else, they don't provide hosting service to regular people even if you want it (I have tried). Unlike in…

Dear Dr [my name]

After reviewing your updated customer information, we have decided to deactivate your account because of some concerns we have regarding this information. Therefore, we have cancelled all your existing products and orders with us.

Best regards

Your Hetzner Online Team

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This is the email that I received, after I mistyped my credit card data, when creating an account on Hetzner Cloud. You don't have to be a big cloud company to enforce the KYC rules to defend against fraud.

I wonder how big/small wa pissmail? Would be good to know where is the threshold of sanity:

1. staying with smaller providers is cheaper (and you usually get non-AI customer support)

2. at the risk of stepping into something that makes you lose your data (like you did)

Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article spells it out clearly: charging them with violating sanctions law by directly or indirectly making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities.

>"making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities." this is very vague

It comes from EU law. E.g. Council Regulation No 269/2014 defines economic resources as "assets of every kind, whether tangible or intangible, movable or immovable, which are not funds but may be used to obtain funds, goods or services." (https://finance.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2020-06/200619-opi...)

And of course "EU-sanctioned entities" is a rather well-defined list, details here: https://data.europa.eu/data/datasets/consolidated-list-of-pe...

Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

#113

We should note these are not even slightly legitimate hosting companies, lest anyone worry too much about their non-KYC offshore servers. These aren't hosting companies that ask little, they are just directly front companies for Russian intelligence, owned by members of Russian intelligence, they don't do anything else, they don't provide hosting service to regular people even if you want it (I have tried). Unlike in…

Dear Dr [my name] After reviewing your updated customer information, we have decided to deactivate your account because of some concerns we have regarding this information. Therefore, we have cancelled all your existing products and orders with us. Best regards Your Hetzner Online Team --- This is the email that I received, after I mistyped my credit card data, when creating an account on Hetzner Cloud. You don't hav…

Maybe don't use any German service you can't afford to lose. Their government hates the tech industry, no matter how much it sings its praises. Same government just labeled watermelons as illegal antisemitism, btw.

Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

#114

We should note these are not even slightly legitimate hosting companies, lest anyone worry too much about their non-KYC offshore servers. These aren't hosting companies that ask little, they are just directly front companies for Russian intelligence, owned by members of Russian intelligence, they don't do anything else, they don't provide hosting service to regular people even if you want it (I have tried). Unlike in…

> email service provider (pissmail) I'm sorry this happened to you.

I too am sorry! Thank for taking the piss, while you did! hear hear!
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