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Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by cauch »

andix wrote: post #70
cauch wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, is the answer "no"? I don't think it changes anything about what I was saying. If indeed dhh helped find a way to install hyprland more easily but failed to also provide a standalone recipe, that does not sound like a good practice to me.

The answer is: no, solving your problem was not the goal of the project. But the source code is public, you can extract the relevant scripts from the repo: https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy

This is not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that they should "solve my problem", I'm saying that their reputation should be reviewed negatively if they "create a distribution to solve a problem that has no reason to be solve by creating a distribution". Not that it is a very very bad thing, just that it shows that they are not really good at what they do.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by cauch »

yuters wrote: post #56
cauch wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did dhh provide a recipe to install hyprland properly without having to install a full "distribution"? (I don't know, it's a real question) It feels very strange (and wrong) to me: if there is difficulties in installing something, try to help people instead of packaging the solution with other things that are not related. It feels a bit like if uv was mainly providing their "uvOS" to solve the difficulties of dealing…

I was just talking about my experience. I don't think DHH's entire goal was only to help people install Hyprland, it's weird that you're getting this idea.

It is not what I'm saying, of course.

I'm saying that if they ended up shipping the house because the house contains their new useful microwave but forget to ship the microwave independently, it is something that should decrease their reputation, it looks silly and amateurish.

Of course, I'm not saying that they should solve my problem for me. Simply, they are doing things in a complicated way either uselessly or either non-fully-honnestly.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by queenkjuul »

Kon5ole wrote: post #91

Having tried both Omakub and Omarchy I think Omakub is the more interesting approach, and it certainly matches the OP's description - just a set of scripts and defaults applied to a standard Ubuntu. I'd love to see a bunch of similar projects based on slackware, debian, suse or whatever. I think most current distros/DE's dump "everything and the kitchen sink" at the user leaving him or her to finish the setup themsel…

What's missing from standard Ubuntu? I recently did a fresh install and it seems finished to me

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by joe_mamba »

voidnap wrote: post #97
wrren wrote: post #43

We seem to have arrived at a set of assumptions that states that if a large number of people like something that we don’t, or don’t subscribe to some cultural norms that we doggedly adhere to, then there has to be something sinister afoot. The out of box experience with Omarchy is highly functional, aesthetically pleasing and challenges users to lean more on keyboard shortcuts than they’d typically be used to. That’s…

True! I love it when I buy a computer pre-installed with windows and it has a bunch of extra software bundled in like norton antivirus, dropbox, and opera. Plus the OEM makes money and I get a bunch of free apps. It's a win win. I hope the author of omarchy gets sponsor money for including nordvpn, spotify, and 1password. I love seeing linux become more conventionally attractive and steer in the direction of windows…

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Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by undeveloper »

terracatta wrote: post #57

Usually these types of articles are written about things that challenge status quos. I remember reading a lot about Ruby on Rails in the same vein "ruby isn't a real language", "rails is just a collection of scripts", and "you can't build real web apps with it." If Omarchy is upsetting the Linux establishment as much as this article implies (unclear if this is just a one-off) then it's probably worth a look!

it's upsetting as money goes to a dotfile config rather than the underlying projects. arch linux is a phenomenal project

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by andix »

cauch wrote: post #111
andix wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The answer is: no, solving your problem was not the goal of the project. But the source code is public, you can extract the relevant scripts from the repo: https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy

This is not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that they should "solve my problem", I'm saying that their reputation should be reviewed negatively if they "create a distribution to solve a problem that has no reason to be solve by creating a distribution". Not that it is a very very bad thing, just that it shows that they are not really good at what they do.

Its exactly what you’re saying. You have a different problem and a different opinion. And your conclusion is that „they are not good at what they are doing“

I’m really no DHH fan, but i think he knows what he’s doing and is also good at it.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by dtj1123 »

voidnap wrote: post #97
wrren wrote: post #43

We seem to have arrived at a set of assumptions that states that if a large number of people like something that we don’t, or don’t subscribe to some cultural norms that we doggedly adhere to, then there has to be something sinister afoot. The out of box experience with Omarchy is highly functional, aesthetically pleasing and challenges users to lean more on keyboard shortcuts than they’d typically be used to. That’s…

True! I love it when I buy a computer pre-installed with windows and it has a bunch of extra software bundled in like norton antivirus, dropbox, and opera. Plus the OEM makes money and I get a bunch of free apps. It's a win win. I hope the author of omarchy gets sponsor money for including nordvpn, spotify, and 1password. I love seeing linux become more conventionally attractive and steer in the direction of windows…

Could you please confirm that this is satire

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by undeveloper »

BirAdam wrote: post #67

By your reasoning of what is or is not a distribution, Ubuntu is not a distribution. After all, it’s just opinionated Debian. The vast majority of distributions are, by your logic, not distributions. I’m okay with this, but that isn’t how the word is commonly used.

ubuntu has its own packages from Debian and a different release cycle
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