if someone uses ai to draft they still need to compress it into their own judgment before sending it
Don't just paste the AI at me
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#112Seems a bit aggressive to send to someone. Let's spread love, not hate
A bit of crudeness required in this case.
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#114Overdramatic: when I saw friends and acquaintances doing this I couldn't help but feeling a slight sense of loss--that we (I) have lost the person. At that point, is the person still even a person? He's nothing more but a meat RPA, copy pasting responses. The reason I value a person is the uniqueness of the person's brain's weights and biases. When I lose access to that and I get ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini weights and bia…
Suppose they simply directly quoted Wikipedia or some other expert authority, with attribution, rather than AI. Would you say the same thing? The person isn't giving you the uniqueness of their brain's weights and biases when they do that, either. That doesn't make the response any less helpful or appropriate in the situation. People quote other sources sometimes. That's entirely OK. In fact, sometimes it's completel…
Please don’t say “okay, thanks, that’s great” unless you mean it.
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#115They need to update the site a bit. Seems like they expected to get "dontpastetheai.com" but didn't?
Weird thing is that domain is even available to buy.
Thanks for the heads up! I tried the first domain but cloud flare for some reason didn't allow me to purchase it
But now it's done! Both domains now point to the same place :)
Re: Don't just paste the AI at me
#116Overdramatic: when I saw friends and acquaintances doing this I couldn't help but feeling a slight sense of loss--that we (I) have lost the person. At that point, is the person still even a person? He's nothing more but a meat RPA, copy pasting responses. The reason I value a person is the uniqueness of the person's brain's weights and biases. When I lose access to that and I get ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini weights and bia…
While I endorse the message of TFA (though do find the framing a bit on the overly blunt side), I believe it's unfair to reduce to "losing the person". The person is still willing to engage with you and still had to use their human words to prompt the AI. The latent space they exposed within the model is still uniquely the result of their words and effort. We're just missing the establishment of a decorum of, "even i…
> The person is still willing to engage with you and still had to use their human words to prompt the AI.
But they aren't willing enough to participate to actually engage in a discussion. They're just making people interact with a bot with a layer of indirection. Apparently, they don't know (or care) that if someone wants the machine's answer rather than the person's, they'd just ask the machine directly.
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#117Overdramatic: when I saw friends and acquaintances doing this I couldn't help but feeling a slight sense of loss--that we (I) have lost the person. At that point, is the person still even a person? He's nothing more but a meat RPA, copy pasting responses. The reason I value a person is the uniqueness of the person's brain's weights and biases. When I lose access to that and I get ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini weights and bia…
Suppose they simply directly quoted Wikipedia or some other expert authority, with attribution, rather than AI. Would you say the same thing? The person isn't giving you the uniqueness of their brain's weights and biases when they do that, either. That doesn't make the response any less helpful or appropriate in the situation. People quote other sources sometimes. That's entirely OK. In fact, sometimes it's completel…
> People quote other sources sometimes. That's entirely OK.
It's OK in the context of doing that to support a larger discussion they're participating in. It's not OK if the quote is the entirety of the response.
> you are more than likely to lose the person entirely from the conversation anyway.
Perhaps, but they weren't really participating in the discussion anyway.
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#118tbh some questions deserve the ai response pasted at them. The type that you'd like lmgtfy at them before. The edge cuts both ways; if you put zero effort into your question, sometimes you deserve 0 effort responses. That being said, I always hesitate to do this since I'm an imperfect judge
> The type that you'd like lmgtfy at them before.
Which has always been an equally objectionable thing to do as well.
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#119I've always been fascinated that some people don't seem to have any email "voice" - they just can't translate email text into human emotional impact. So they write super abrupt emails, things they would never say in real life, totally different to their actual personality. It's almost like a distinct form of autism. Meanwhile I'm almost the opposite extreme - I can't hit send on something unless I've finessed it unti…
I admire your quality and I envy it, but I have to say, finesse, even if I could, is not something I would have time for, at least not for professional emails. And I stopped writing personal emails years ago now…
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#120I don't know what's worse: 1. Asking a question which could be answered by an AI 2. Pasting an AI response to something If 1 is fair game, I'd say 2 is too.
You should know. I find it hard to believe, in fact, that you don't know. Telling people they shouldn't even ask questions that can theoretically be Googled/AI'd with enough time or blind trust is hideous in the extreme, and absolutely antithetical to the ideas of humanity and intellectual curiosity. I would like to never hear such a suggestion come out of anybody's mouth, particularly on HN.
If you want to know the truth I find it worse to ask questions that folks can answer themselves.
When you don't know the answer to something you should try to figure it out before asking. That builds important skills. Like it or not LLMs are now a useful tool for that. The first instinct shouldn't be to ask someone else if you haven't expended any effort.
For example, if you don't know 6*27 I'd consider it rude to ask if you have a calculator on your desk but you're too lazy to use it.