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Re: BBEdit 16

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BBEdit is still in the App Store – you can download Version 16 today if you want. If you buy it that way, then there is a single setting which authorises access to the sandboxed directories.

Hey, that’s cool. I’m glad they figured it out. They don’t mention it on the site, though, so I guess they aren’t eager to share their money with Apple. Thanks!

There's a 'Mac App Store' FAQ on the support page, but you're right, it's given undue prominence elsewhere ;-)

Re: BBEdit 16

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So, I’ve used BBEdit briefly in the past, and I’m familiar with its stellar reputation. But I’m confused by some of the comments here. Are people mainly using it in place of something like Obsidian? Vim? Emacs? VS Code? Notes? It doesn’t look like it would make for a great IDE but seems to have very powerful text transformation abilities. If I work in VS Code and use Obsidian for notes, is there still a place for som…

I've used it for basically any text editing task. Quickly jotting stuff down for later, web development, writing articles, drafting emails, whatever. I've used VS Code a lot and have used Obsidian for notes/worldbuilding in TTRPGs, but neither really gave me anything I wasn't already getting in BBEdit for general-purpose coding and text editing, and neither come close to its ability to do elaborate text transformations.

These days I use emacs for most of that stuff, but I have such a fondness for BBEdit, and still drop into it for regex stuff enough, that I'm buying the update.

Re: BBEdit 16

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Hmmm I can’t think of a subscription app that truly doesn’t have a free/upfront/unupgraded alternative - its just that usually they come with quality issues or poor support, so people choose the better, subscription-based, auto-updating ones.

I can think of plenty of apps that have perfectly fine non-subscription options, and then turned subscription only. People use them because the products were good or industry standard. They don't prefer them because subscriptions somehow magically enabled them to be better. They already preferred them over alternatives before subscriptions. If anything, people often complain that they got shittier after the subscript…

Don't you think that if people preferred it strongly, a competitor would gobble up that opportunity if the model was viable?

Regarding your last point, there's plenty of software offering both options ($$$ lifetime vs $ monthly). I don't have the data but I bet they see a TON more sales for $ monthly.

E.g. Final Cut Pro for macOS is available as a one-time purchase for $299.99. Alternatively, you can subscribe to Apple Creator Studio for $12.99/month or $129/year

Re: BBEdit 16

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The built-in TextEdit (in plain text mode) is also a perfectly cromulent minimum viable text editor.

I wonder if anyone has taken the source of TextEdit [1] and added some minor niceties to just make it slightly more convenient for text editing (like adding line numbers). [1] https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/samplecode/TextE...

I find the free edition of BBEdit to be an excellent middle ground between TextEdit and a full-fat IDE.

Re: BBEdit 16

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The tab key in BBEdit inserts a literal tab character, or advances to a tab stop. It doesn't indent the line, which is what I would argue it should do when writing code.

As a matter of interest, there is a setting `Allow tab key to indent text blocks` (in Settings > Keyboard) – doesn't that do what you're describing?

Per the manual:

> When this option is on, you can press the Tab key to invoke the Shift Right command, or Shift-Tab to invoke the Shift Left command; this may be useful for those accustomed to Windows editing key behavior. When this option is off, pressing Tab will insert a tab character in the normal manner. This option is off by default.

I think this is already identical to tab behaviour in Emacs, just not by default.

Re: BBEdit 16

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post #84

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The tab key in BBEdit inserts a literal tab character, or advances to a tab stop. It doesn't indent the line, which is what I would argue it should do when writing code.

As a matter of interest, there is a setting `Allow tab key to indent text blocks` (in Settings > Keyboard) – doesn't that do what you're describing?

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