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Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by Aerolfos »

mtrovo wrote: post #104
browningstreet wrote: post #71

I’ve almost entirely given up on managing music. Just done with it. I listen to soma.fm and radioparadise.com .. I read one music magazine and listen to some of the music recommendations from there, but following any of it, over time, is a lost cause for me. I was just remarking to someone how music apps are the least interesting, personal, and innovative of all the things I live with. Examples: we still can’t manage…

Youtube Music is quite good for what you're describing.

> Examples: we still can’t manage playlists of albums, or down signal genres of music or even artists, or separate “calm” music for sleep from all the other generative playlist rankings they use.

Youtube music thinks "videogame music" is a genre and lumps them all together, if you make the mistake of including even one song from a game OST any recommendations go out the window.

For example, a "chill" mix with videogame music in it will happily start including Doom Eternal tracks because "they're the same thing, right?"

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by skydhash »

browningstreet wrote: post #71

I’ve almost entirely given up on managing music. Just done with it. I listen to soma.fm and radioparadise.com .. I read one music magazine and listen to some of the music recommendations from there, but following any of it, over time, is a lost cause for me. I was just remarking to someone how music apps are the least interesting, personal, and innovative of all the things I live with. Examples: we still can’t manage…

I have a collection of flacs which contains the albums that matters deeply to me. I don’t mind not having access to unlimited music (I do have a spotify account but I rarely use it). I much prefer to do mindful listening, spending an hour or two, playing a full album at a time, or quickly composing a mood queue. I don’t even shuffle.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by lentil_soup »

317070 wrote: post #9
827a wrote: post #5

For those against this: I'm curious to hear your take on how you'd stop/mitigate scalping.

Named tickets, like airplane seats? Sorry, I only thought about this for 5 seconds, but there are markets where scalping doesn't cause issues. We could look at those.

Some festivals work just like that, you upload some ID when buying your ticket which they see when you enter the venue. Feels really nice and stress free.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by ryandrake »

galleywest200 wrote: post #36
jmuguy wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another reason to use Bandcamp and just buy music. Of course then you've gotta setup a whole stack to store it, make it available to your devices, etc etc. I dunno, Spotify certainly isn't going to get better at this point. Best we can hope is that they die and something better takes their place.

> Of course then you've gotta setup a whole stack to store it No you do not. Just use an external drive and an MP3 player like some kind of caveman. There are plenty of high quality models out there. Additionally smart phones will let you store music on them to listen to using the player app of your choice (VLC or something).

For the last 20 years, my "stack" has been a NFS-mounted hard drive full of MP3s, and the occasional rsync mirror to a USB stick if I need to listen to something without a network connection.

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Post by jghn »

browningstreet wrote: post #71

I’ve almost entirely given up on managing music. Just done with it. I listen to soma.fm and radioparadise.com .. I read one music magazine and listen to some of the music recommendations from there, but following any of it, over time, is a lost cause for me. I was just remarking to someone how music apps are the least interesting, personal, and innovative of all the things I live with. Examples: we still can’t manage…

iTunes Match. It's entirely your own stuff. You pay for it, or upload your own stuff you have from elsewhere. You own it. You stream it wherever.

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Post by robotnikman »

Aerolfos wrote: post #111
mtrovo wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youtube Music is quite good for what you're describing.

> Examples: we still can’t manage playlists of albums, or down signal genres of music or even artists, or separate “calm” music for sleep from all the other generative playlist rankings they use. Youtube music thinks "videogame music" is a genre and lumps them all together, if you make the mistake of including even one song from a game OST any recommendations go out the window. For example, a "chill" mix with videoga…

It feels like the quality of the Youtube Music app took a dive when they fired the whole team and outsourced development around a year or so ago.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by tokioyoyo »

rglover wrote: post #74
827a wrote: post #5

For those against this: I'm curious to hear your take on how you'd stop/mitigate scalping.

Go back to the old way. Get in line physically and go get the tickets. This is one of those "technology should help here but actually makes the problem worse in weird ways" type of situations. Nine Inch Nails/Trent Reznor did this in 2018 and it was infinitely better (I also met a lot of people just standing in line—we recognized each other at the show later and ended up throwing each other around in the mosh pit—a g…

If it can still be resold online, it won’t mitigate scalping much for on-demand shows. You can see that on any scalping-heavy items that require a person to be there physically to purchase the item (cards, collectibles from restaurants, and etc.).

Above-face-value ticket resale is illegal here and it helps a lot. But you need to make sure this gets prosecuted hard.

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Post by [deleted] »

ZeWaka wrote: post #14
317070 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Named tickets, like airplane seats? Sorry, I only thought about this for 5 seconds, but there are markets where scalping doesn't cause issues. We could look at those.

Still have the issue of transferring tickets to friends or such if you can't make it. Axios and some providers handle this.

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Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by smrq »

ch4s3 wrote: post #31
827a wrote: post #5

For those against this: I'm curious to hear your take on how you'd stop/mitigate scalping.

This is ultimately a supply and demand problem. If tickets sell out on the secondary market for 10 or 100x the face value, then that's the fair market price. Either artists should charge more, or perform more shows.

This may come as a shock to capitalists, but some artists don't want to charge their fans more. Fugazi famously capped their ticket prices at $5 because they wanted their shows to be affordable.

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Post by willio58 »

browningstreet wrote: post #71

I’ve almost entirely given up on managing music. Just done with it. I listen to soma.fm and radioparadise.com .. I read one music magazine and listen to some of the music recommendations from there, but following any of it, over time, is a lost cause for me. I was just remarking to someone how music apps are the least interesting, personal, and innovative of all the things I live with. Examples: we still can’t manage…

Hop on plex amp. Take control of your music.

I realize that sounds like an Ad but I’ve been using it for a few months and I feel like I’ve rediscovered my joy for music again.

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