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Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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It's always the same story, but it's always incorrect. https://realclimatescience.com/2019/12/warming-twice-as-fast

All of these headlines can be correct, just at different times:

https://science.nasa.gov/earth/explore/earth-indicators/glob...

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Imagine if all the vehicles that run of fossil fules is converted into EV. What are the incentives in place to properly recycle the batteries? Does a new battery technology go into production before the technology to recycle it is production grade/economically viable? What happens when we are getting like a million EV batteries, globally per day, to dispose off? What happens when these batteries use vastly different…

“Caution” does nothing except ensure we keep spewing more co2 for longer and cooking the planet. There is no practical alternative to EVs. So let’s go all in as fast as possible please

There is no practical alternative to air, water and earth as well...So let us please consider the possibility of pollution of those that could be caused by a global dumping of EV batteries

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

#114

It's always the same story, but it's always incorrect. https://realclimatescience.com/2019/12/warming-twice-as-fast

Those all seem to be stories that are saying that areas at high latitude and/or altitude are warming faster than areas near the equator or at sea level, which doesn't seem obviously wrong.

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Imagine an alien with extreme tech capabilities is pointing a heater at the earth. Now react appropriately: - model and build temperature resistant crops. - harvest energy from the heat - create resilience in social governance to enable safer movement of people with education to enable quick adaptation. - build energy resilience everywhere - including in and especially in desert areas. - more constructive ideas. Don’…

If you’re suffering from obesity, is it helpful to imagine an alien somehow beaming calories into your stomach?

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Imagine an alien with extreme tech capabilities is pointing a heater at the earth. Now react appropriately: - model and build temperature resistant crops. - harvest energy from the heat - create resilience in social governance to enable safer movement of people with education to enable quick adaptation. - build energy resilience everywhere - including in and especially in desert areas. - more constructive ideas. Don’…

>harvest energy from the heat

This is not a thing. This is just entropy.

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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The Book "Don't think of an Elephant" by George Lakoff covers how the term "climate change" has been pushed by those with a status-quo agenda, to reduce the urgency and engagement with "global warming". The linked article uses both, but global warming more dominantly, including "heating" in the headline.

I always thought climate change was just a more accurate term, because global warming implies that everywhere gets warmer, which isn't necessarily so.

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Imagine an alien with extreme tech capabilities is pointing a heater at the earth. Now react appropriately: - model and build temperature resistant crops. - harvest energy from the heat - create resilience in social governance to enable safer movement of people with education to enable quick adaptation. - build energy resilience everywhere - including in and especially in desert areas. - more constructive ideas. Don’…

Except it's not aliens, it's us. Maybe stop doing that.

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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wheres those people working on fusion? are they making progress?

We already literally have cheap solar arrays and inexpensive electric vehicles (from ebikes to tractor trailors) that could replace the vast majority of GHG emissions. We have even have ruminate alternatives that are fairly convincing.

People don't want to use them: they're ugly, imperfect, foreign feeling.

We're at the point where we should only be worried about international plane travel, concrete, and shipping. Yet, we still act like the problem is technology... and we can't even build a train in CA because of politics.

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Who do you mean "we"? Look at the evolution of CO2 emisions in the past 40 years by region. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co-emissions-by-re...

I find that the per capita graph is more informative https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita?t...

Maybe co2 per gdp per capita? Who generates the most wealth while emitting the least co2.
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