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Re: Artificial egg hatched 26 healthy chickens

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Post by MarkusQ »

jfengel wrote: post #9
iwontberude wrote: post #2

Have we already forgotten about chaos theory?

For a book/movie with a decent (if optimistic) grasp of genetics, its grasp of chaos theory was utterly ignorant.

From this I can deduce that your grasp of chaos theory is better than your grasp of genetics. People who know about genetics thought the genetics sucked. People who know about computers thought the depiction of computers was awful. Don't ask get anyone who knows about nutrition started on acting as if there are no sources of lysine found in nature. And economists...

It is, literally, a movie with something for everyone.

Re: Artificial egg hatched 26 healthy chickens

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Post by lesuorac »

dandellion wrote: post #15
hypfer wrote: post #10

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Yes, yes. Dodos. The endgame of this is Dodos.

Yes, first they'll focus on normal dodos. Then, they'll try very large Dodos. After that, very, very ancient dodos. Followed by island dodos. Then they might set up a whole island that people can visit, full of all kinds of dodos. They'll do tours with self driving cars so people can see all the dodos from a safe distance.

Tbh, I kinda always assume they were going to pivot into designer kids as opposed to dinosaurs.

Re: Artificial egg hatched 26 healthy chickens

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Post by kelseyfrog »

jaggederest wrote: post #68
Avicebron wrote: post #11

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I'm holding out hope we can get the moa birds back in my lifetime.

Or the South American terrorbirds, the extant species are tiny, seriemas, and they're very interesting. I bet one that weighs 700 pounds would be even more exciting

Terrorbirds? Based on the name alone, are we sure this is a good idea?

Re: Artificial egg hatched 26 healthy chickens

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kelseyfrog wrote: post #113
jaggederest wrote: post #68

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Or the South American terrorbirds, the extant species are tiny, seriemas, and they're very interesting. I bet one that weighs 700 pounds would be even more exciting

Terrorbirds? Based on the name alone, are we sure this is a good idea?

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Re: Artificial egg hatched 26 healthy chickens

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Post by NopIdoN »

margalabargala wrote: post #71
fragmede wrote: post #32

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It's been a while since high school biology class, and I can't ask my sister right now, but I don't think humans are born in eggs. What does an artificial egg hatching chickens have to do with cloning humans?

Arguably humans are born from large, soft-shelled, ambulatory eggs.

ewww eggs with legs

Re: Artificial egg hatched 26 healthy chickens

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Post by ahazred8ta »

nephihaha wrote: post #105
customguy wrote: post #103

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But they get conditioned to want to be cogs. At any rate, Huxley certainly did not intend it as utopian: https://www.huxley.net/bnw-revisited/ About his ideas for utopia he wrote "Island": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_(Huxley_novel)

His brother was Julian Huxley who was a prime mover in creating the UN. Julian had some curious views about the direction of the human race which may have found their way into Aldous' work.

Julian invented the tinfoil hat.

Re: Artificial egg hatched 26 healthy chickens

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Post by protocolture »

mplanchard wrote: post #29
daniel_iversen wrote: post #19

I've just started listening to the book "Brave new world" (no spoilers please!) and this is literally how the book begins (but with humans) - what could possibly go wrong!

No spoilers, but I used to think, along the lines of Neil Postman in Amusing Ourselves to Death, that Brave New World wound up being the more accurate picture of future society than 1984, despite being less well-known and referenced in cultural consciousness. Unfortunately, it seems like the former may be enabling the latter, so we may end up with a “porque no los dos” situation.

>Brave New World wound up being the more accurate picture of future society than 1984, despite being less well-known and referenced in cultural consciousness.

I encounter this exact thought in every comment thread that mentions 1984 without fail.

And usually 3 or so comments later I realise that they poster of this amazing idea hasnt read (or at least doesnt remember) 1984 anyway.

>Unfortunately, it seems like the former may be enabling the latter, so we may end up with a “porque no los dos” situation.

You mean some sort of situation where the masses (or "proles") are kept happy with puerile entertainment while those people with political impulses are kept under heavy surveillance? Kind of like the novel 1984?

Re: Artificial egg hatched 26 healthy chickens

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Post by protocolture »

kombine wrote: post #42
mplanchard wrote: post #29

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No spoilers, but I used to think, along the lines of Neil Postman in Amusing Ourselves to Death, that Brave New World wound up being the more accurate picture of future society than 1984, despite being less well-known and referenced in cultural consciousness. Unfortunately, it seems like the former may be enabling the latter, so we may end up with a “porque no los dos” situation.

I haven't read Brave New World but "We" by Evgeny Zamyatin left a similar impression on me, it's more subtle than 1984. It came out earlier than both books by the Western authors - even though Zamyatin was inspired while working in England in early 20th century.

Yeah Orwell took a lot from "We". Its honestly a much better book.

Re: Artificial egg hatched 26 healthy chickens

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Post by zamadatix »

dullcrisp wrote: post #72
zamadatix wrote: post #67

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At least animals getting ground up live is a horror as old as time. We seem to always be moving in the other direction and creating more new horrors instead of making things better.

I agree we should focus more on reviving ancient horrors.

The complete omittance of even acknowledging we have invented modern animal horrors far worse to work on first makes it sound like we just need to do better than other animals. Willfully ignoring that to act like doing so is a form of agreement between the statements is a bit gruesome itself.

I'm glad you want to handle some of the problem, but let's not act like we just need to do better than other animals is all to discuss. It's easy enough to agree with the full problem unless you're fine with the other parts.

Re: Artificial egg hatched 26 healthy chickens

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Post by ravenstine »

dimes wrote: post #81
mplanchard wrote: post #29

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No spoilers, but I used to think, along the lines of Neil Postman in Amusing Ourselves to Death, that Brave New World wound up being the more accurate picture of future society than 1984, despite being less well-known and referenced in cultural consciousness. Unfortunately, it seems like the former may be enabling the latter, so we may end up with a “porque no los dos” situation.

1984 is a much better book. The writing is beautiful and the story is gripping. For that reason alone, it occupies a larger part of society’s psyche. I agree that many aspects of Brave New World were prescient, but 1984 isn’t entirely inaccurate either.

I agree. Brave New World has some very interesting and relevant ideas, but I just couldn't hold my attention with his writing style.
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