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Re: Map of Metal

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Post by senderista »

BrokenCogs wrote: post #85
nyeah wrote: post #68

Very nice map. Historical comment only. I first listened to this music in the late 1970s. One big change in the story, over time, is how few people trace the sound to Hendrix now. (Not this map in particular. Metal fans I know would agree with the map.) I think (?) a common current viewpoint is that Led Zep [!?] was foundational but the genre really started with Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. Which, definitions chan…

I started learning guitar in 2006 and my guitar teacher pointed out how metal originated from Hendrix's sound. I always thought that was common knowledge

I think it's more like metal originated from Tony Iommi's sound. Was Hendrix a significant influence on Iommi, no idea.

Re: Map of Metal

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Post by Jarwain »

xtracto wrote: post #44
pjgalbraith wrote: post #5

Didn't expect to see something I made on HN while my wife is trying to find something to watch on TV. So about the site in case anyone is interested. I made it with a friend who was studying multimedia. He helped with the data and I did the coding. Took about a week or two. The site was originally Flash (remember that). But I ported it to HTML5 a few years ago. It still has those Flash vibes I think. Posted the code…

Younger people would never understand how amazing the internet was back in the 90s. Particularly before ads and SEO became an industry. Also Flash, most people don't realize what we lost with Flash. The amount of non-professional multimedia content available was so great. It was a cooking ground for people to experiment with animation ideas. Very low hanging fruit. HTML5/Canvas/CSS just don't have that accessibility.…

With LLM's, I wonder how far away we are from "a cooking ground for people to experiment with ideas"

Re: Map of Metal

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Post by Drup »

pjgalbraith wrote: post #5

Didn't expect to see something I made on HN while my wife is trying to find something to watch on TV. So about the site in case anyone is interested. I made it with a friend who was studying multimedia. He helped with the data and I did the coding. Took about a week or two. The site was originally Flash (remember that). But I ported it to HTML5 a few years ago. It still has those Flash vibes I think. Posted the code…

Your map was very formative for me when I was exploring metal, thanks a lot !

I would love for this Map to be expanded to modern subgenres. There are lot's of subgenres that completely changed in the last decades (notably, the *cores and the tech* ...)

And it's definitely missing Thall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtV9pcHh8vM). :D

Re: Map of Metal

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Post by satinWorship »

voidfunc wrote: post #47

I'd love of this showed me the spiritual successors of a band / sub-genre even if they're not mainstream or well known. For example, I really love Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and a number of other "classic" Heavy Metal bands with a slow, hard but not sludgy brooding sound and amazing vocals. But it's hard finding modern acts with a similar sound. What tends to happen when I search for modern metal is I end up findin…

You can maybe checkout https://hate5six.com/sage this lets you pick what you like and also what you don't like and tries to categories by percentage.

Bands that you are saying. Maybe Hangman's Chair, Pallbearer, Faetooth, Rezn, Conan, and Monolord.

Re: Map of Metal

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Post by duped »

nyeah wrote: post #68

Very nice map. Historical comment only. I first listened to this music in the late 1970s. One big change in the story, over time, is how few people trace the sound to Hendrix now. (Not this map in particular. Metal fans I know would agree with the map.) I think (?) a common current viewpoint is that Led Zep [!?] was foundational but the genre really started with Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. Which, definitions chan…

In my opinion Hendrix is to electric guitar what Beethoven was to (Western) harmony. All contemporary lines go through him.

One thing to note though is that Hendrix had a very short career in which he lived/performed in Nashville, the Chitlin' Circuit, Greenwich Village, and London. On top of being an incredibly proficient/creative guitar player he also had an incredible ear and picked up sounds/techniques/songs from everywhere he lived and with everyone he played with.

Part of why you can trace the evolution of guitar playing through Hendrix is that on top of his records being popular and everyone learning those tunes as a first/second year student, his own musicological background was a fusion of the major songwriting movements of the 1960s that spawned modern blues, pop, funk, fusion, rock, and metal. It's easy to see Hendrix as an influence on modern music because he was a magnet for players of all those genres.

What's interesting about Hendrix is that he is "an artist you listen to" instead of "an artist who an artist you listen to, listens to" from the same era like Albert King or Joe Pass.

Re: Map of Metal

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Post by shagie »

shermantanktop wrote: post #108
shagie wrote: post #100

One of the "I'm trying to find it" ... Fantasy metal. I was wondering where I'd find Blind Guardian ( https://youtu.be/n63UbX5kzAc https://youtu.be/uOMfsywQgY0?si=7N9hcXJcqbZtJ1jC&t=953 ) or the newly emerging dwarfish metal genre with Windrose (best known for their rendition of Diggy Diggy Hole https://youtu.be/34CZjsEI1yU but they've got other music that celebrates fantasy dwarf culture - https://lnk.to/WindRose-Tr…

I get the thematic connection but I feel like Blind Guardian is an institution whereas the Diggy Diggy Hole band is perhaps in a different league with a more selective core fan base and a song that has novelty appeal. No offense to dwarf metal fans intended.

Their rendition of Diggy Diggy Hole made it to dwarvish rock anthem... but they've got a lot of other material that is dwarf themed.

They do speak to more of the gamer culture... for example Rock and Stone https://youtu.be/8ZXBm1NXBaI - there's a lot of other dwarf rock.

Consider "The Breed of Durin" - who preformed it? https://youtu.be/dV51_xsV4uI

Other than seeing "Wind Rose" and knowing Blind Guardian discography, you'd likely have to listen carefully to identify if this was Blind Guardian or Windrose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIhpnUMTxak&list=OLAK5uy_m3G...

Re: Map of Metal

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Post by HappMacDonald »

xtracto wrote: post #44
pjgalbraith wrote: post #5

Didn't expect to see something I made on HN while my wife is trying to find something to watch on TV. So about the site in case anyone is interested. I made it with a friend who was studying multimedia. He helped with the data and I did the coding. Took about a week or two. The site was originally Flash (remember that). But I ported it to HTML5 a few years ago. It still has those Flash vibes I think. Posted the code…

Younger people would never understand how amazing the internet was back in the 90s. Particularly before ads and SEO became an industry. Also Flash, most people don't realize what we lost with Flash. The amount of non-professional multimedia content available was so great. It was a cooking ground for people to experiment with animation ideas. Very low hanging fruit. HTML5/Canvas/CSS just don't have that accessibility.…

Let's go back to a websiiiiite!

https://homestarrunner.com/toons/backtoawebsite

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