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Re: Colonization of Venus

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Because willingness to have many children depends on safety. Birth rate falls not (just) because "education".

From my (admittedly limited) knowledge of the research, education of women is the best correlate for lower birth rates. Once women have other options, staying home and popping out babies is less popular. I don't know exactly how that might work in the scenarios we are discussing though.

Wouldn't education correlate with safety?

Re: Colonization of Venus

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Mars also has two polar ice caps [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_polar_ice_caps

True... I had to look if wiki has some new information, but no - as expected it is frozen ice of co2 and not h2o. Getting that h from somewhere to make water is still going to be an issue on Mars.

I don't believe this is accurate. From the wiki:

> The caps at both poles consist primarily of water ice. Frozen carbon dioxide accumulates as a comparatively thin layer about one meter thick on the north cap in the northern winter, while the south cap has a permanent dry ice cover about 8 m thick.

Re: Colonization of Venus

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Mars has a huge amount of water ice

No. Most of that is co2. There are a lot of comets that can deliver ice(of water), but if that is a solution then that works for Venus as well.

Is 20-40m of water across the entire surface not enough?

https://time.com/5947142/water-on-mars/

Re: Colonization of Venus

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> Elon thought of a way to virtually eliminate the land, heat, water, and energy impacts of datacenters He has yet to do any of this. He had an idea that plenty of others have had, and have mostly dismissed due to concerns with feasibility. Granted, orbital DCs could one day be feasible with enough investment; I will not pretend that it is impossible. But for him to pretend that it is a solution for today's problems…

Elon has been called an idiot for every single one of his ventures. Again and again and again. Maybe he'll fail this time. Maybe he'll figure it out. But I like the fact that he is trying rather than spending his money on mansions and yachts.

> But I like the fact that he is trying rather than spending his money on mansions and yachts.

Don't worry, he's doing that, too. And I'd dispute that he's trying; I've seen the SpaceX S-1, and it's looking like he took a successful business and rolled some failures into it to move money around. Everything is just a vehicle to make him wealthier; I don't believe anything he says in regards to helping humanity with his ventures.

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