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Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now

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Re: Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now

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I'm not sure I understand the reference

The phrase "Kill the Cop in Your Head" originated as an anonymous protest slogan during the May 1968 uprising in France.

Thanks, I don't think I've ever heard the phrase and had no chance of getting it lol

Re: Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now

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Doesn't it have closed drivers making porting hard? Perhaps you could consider porting it to Pinephone?

Not sure. I thought the FuriPhone's advantage was that they were making it in conjunction with the ODM so you didn't have to use halium to call into Android. But a quick google search tells me I'm mistaken. Maybe I was thinking of the FairPhone? I would consider the PinePhone, but my experience with it left me cold. And they EoL'd the Pro and the original PinePhone is fairly anemic by modern standards. I'm not sure i…

How about Librem 5 then? All its drivers are free, too.

Re: Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now

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Is it only M1 macs, or are other M-series supported too (or maybe they were previously)? Hard to tell if this is a major breakthrough or just an incremental improvement.

AFAIK only M1 -- but yes, it's a major achievement: AFAIK this is the first bare-metal Haiku on Arm.

Re: Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now

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Using BeOS was a fantastic experience in 1999, and it's sad that it hasn't caught on. I'm rooting for all OSes that bring different perspectives to the OS world instead of being another textbook Unix variant. My only qualm is how HaikuOS, and AmigaOS for that matter, fail to carry over their aesthetics to a high-resolution/HiDPI world. I see gradients, overly-empahsized embosses in the UI screenshots. They lack the s…

> Windows 11's UI seems easier on the eyes than Haiku now.

I feel the exact reverse. I find modern flat UIs ugly and hard to operate, which makes them more tiring.

It is not just me:

https://grumpy.website/

Re: Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now

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Which governments, though? The US loves these "NOBUS" companies, enforcing Google and Apple's walled garden is part of their agenda. The hardline opposition like China, Russia and North Korea all have contingency ecosystems they'd rather promote than force Apple to comply with an arbitrary featureset. The EU, for all the good it has done, will have to contend with the US refusing to extend FVEY intelligence to states…

The four eyes are most likely already excluding the US at this point.

One pair of those eyes is New Zealand. Our PM would do anything Trump asked and there is a track record.

Sadly, it’s down the the other 3 pairs of eye.

Re: Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now

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> it's the crappy version of XNU/Darwin/NextStep that comes with them What's the issue(s)?

Performance, memory efficiency, some security nits (but compared to Leenucks, it's not that bad), bug fix cadence (there's a bug I filed against NeXTStep 2.2 in 1993 that was finally fixed in 2015), support (they keep changing their mind whether the command line tools are supported.)

Is there a resilient market for people using NeXTStep in the 21st century?

Re: Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now

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What a depressing thing to read on _hacker_ news of all places You might want to read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_culture

HN isn't reddit, for better and for worse. This is the "Orange Site" that gave us Sam Altman, defends monopolies and shits out thousands of net-negative SaaS startups that leech off Open Source software. Manufacture of depression is one of YC's byproducts that everyone loves to ignore while berating Flock and 9 Mothers like they spontaneously popped into existence. Your peers on this website are not principled, fun-l…

Given that you’re saying that in a discussion thread about HaikuOS, allow me to doubt it. I’ve been active with this account for more than 13 years now and do continue to find enough of the hacker ethos for me to engage with

Re: Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now

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On M1 on specific? or on any platform in general?

The platform itself. Like, can it run Firefox? Can I actually do normal stuff in the browser like watch a YouTube video or join a Zoom call? Can I run VSCode? Can I run Docker?

It is not a Linux distro. It is not a Linux at all; it is a completely different, independent OS. It is not a Unix at all: it's an independent ground-up C++ OS that implements a lot of POSIX-type APIs to make it easier to port Unix apps.

Docker is literally a Linux native tool that is for Linux only. The only way Docker works on anything that isn't Linux is by running a Linux VM, containing Alpine.

It is not a Linux and no you cannot do Linux things with it like run Linux containers, because to run Linux containers you need Linux and this is not a Linux.

I am trying to emphasize this because your question seems to be asking "what kind of Linux is this?" and this is a category error.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_mistake

Or, as ESR originally put it, it's an X/Y problem:

https://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem

Yes, a Firefox port became available recently. I don't know if it can run Zoom. I go out of my way to avoid Zoom if I possibly can.

Re: Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now

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FreeBSD is infinitely better than any flavour of Linux if you can do what you need to on it. Great performance, superb documentation, the software just works for the most part (an update in the libc isn't going to break any of the base packages, for example). It takes a while to get it set up, and it can be picky about hardware, but I totally recommend

The BSDs still cannot run docker

No, because Docker is a tool for running Linux containers.

You can use the Linuxulator to run Linux binaries on FreeBSD, including entire distro userlands in Jails. You can use Podman to build and manage OCI containers with Docker-compatible commands.

In other words: you as making the classic XY mistake.

https://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem

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