Flock cameras and the surveillance state generally speaking make me feel like a slave.
What about registration plates? Do they make you feeling like a slave?
Not particularly, what about you?
At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025
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#112Counter point - I live in a major-ish city in which our police force isn't as strong as the surrounding suburbs so I don't mind a few extra eyes on the streets. My kids like to explore the neighborhood and I like a little extra peace of mind.
I am interested to hear why the cameras give you peace of mind? I'd be curious to know what situation you imagine where these cameras help protect you or your family from any harm.
Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly, let your local politicians know the only way they can get your vote is by rejecting Flock.
What's going on here is that out of 100,000 constituents, three know that Gary's Carpets is licensing the city reservoir as a PFOAs dump, and combined they have $1,000 of advertising reach if in-kind contribution is counted. Meanwhile, Gary's Carpets has a $60k advertising budget annually, donates to all five churches, subcontracts influence operations with bot farms, and attends weekly meetings of the grand lupus lo…
Great, sad-in-its-truths comment.
How long will it take the three of them to talk with leadership of those churches? Are they allowed to bring up off topic concerns at PTA meetings where they can tell parents to be aware of the bot farms? Did they already knock on some neighbors’ doors?
All of this is really hard and really time-consuming. The alternative is for those three people to start smashing cameras and we know they won’t finish with their freedom. The uphill battle is the one we must fight.
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#114Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
The irony is destruction of private property will only justify the very surveillance one is trying to avoid. Would you agree ring cameras should be destroyed too? The police can use their footage. In practice they are similar to flock.
Kinda like saying "Throwing the British's tea into Boston harbor will only make us subject to harsher terms." The reality is the vast majority of social progress in the last millenium was achieved with force and threat of force. I find this weird revisionist "violence is never the answer" trope recited as a fact that needs no justification to be incredibly weird and unreliable.
It's not violence, it's vandalism. Quite diferrent.
But why smash'em when you have the right to bear arms? I'd do target practice instead. Improve your shootong skills while getting rid of surveillance. Win-win.
Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025
#116Just sharing my regular reminder that Flock is a YC company. https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety This organization that built itself on top of the “hacker ethos” is now happy to profit from building the surveillance state
were they not always this way?
Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025
#117not sure why people are bothering with destruction, just drive around and shut them down wirelessly. some newer models require a button to be pressed for them to start the AP, but still leaves them vulnerable to attacks with a long stick and doesn't draw any attention while hundreds of cameras suddenly stop working, making the city government think they're unreliable.
> not sure why people are bothering with destruction, just drive around and shut them down wirelessly. The article suggests that some of the cameras are smashed and left in highly visible places to "send a message".
yah, but that's just not a good way to 'send a message'.
a good 'message' would be convincing the government and cities that these are useless and that they don't work as well as create more administrative costs than just hiring more police officers or raising education levels.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Trying to imagine who would be paying for bots to support killing flock cameras. Who would profit from that? Seems more likely to go the other way.
Russia greatly benefits from political instability and turmoil in America and encouraging stuff like this is their modus operandi. I say this as somebody who very much dislikes the idea of Flock.
Just curious, but what's the basis for this claim? I've heard it a lot. But I feel like this in itself is a political statement more than one rooted in sound facts.
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#119This website and article promote the destruction of property. If you disagree with something, you can engage civily, encourage people to vote with you, run for elections. Violence is not the answer.
Hi. The mayor of Denver pushed through flock cameras despite them being unpopular and not even getting enough votes to buy them. He got them to change the price enough that he didn't need the votes to get them installed. How do you have a civil society when the people in power cheat?
Simple. You don't.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
might want to check a history book, you may be surprised what the answer usually was.
Regardless, I do agree with the commentor. Effective or not, violence, to me, is always the wrong answer. Calling the "destruction of property" violence though—I might take issue with that.
I assume this comment means you strongly oppose every part of the American Revolution?