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Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by KaiserPro »

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: post #26
graemep wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, nothing to do with Reform. Organised by Tommy Robinson. The guy Reform think is such a nutcase that they turned down a huge donation from Elon Musk because Elon made it conditional on letting Robinson join Reform. Its hard to find anyone more loathsome than Tommy Robinson in British politics, but being horrible is not a crime.

To Reforms credit while I do think they started off as a bit of a looney party that relied on theatrics they managed to evolve into a more mature party ever since Zia Yusuf joined and you see how the tone of Nigel Farage has already become more serious. To some that will look like they became "Conservatives 2.0" but I don't think we have another real conservative party left anyway.

> ever since Zia Yusuf joined

The same one that threatening concentration camps in areas that don't vote for them? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c362e9p385yo

Farage is not the most extreme in his party. Sadly.

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by KaiserPro »

nailer wrote: post #98
conradludgate wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth stating that historically these right-wing culture protests have been a bit more violent in nature than most protests are. I'm not suggesting that everyone in the protest is violent, but there's enough mob mentality that makes me (someone who lives in London) uncomfortable.

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> Keep is mind the UK left is aligned with Islam

The Left has a fascination with Palestine, not islam. People who push the "the left love poltical islam" are usally trying to sell you that London is a wasteland, or that white people can't speak in public

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by graemep »

pjc50 wrote: post #107
graemep wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, nothing to do with Reform. Organised by Tommy Robinson. The guy Reform think is such a nutcase that they turned down a huge donation from Elon Musk because Elon made it conditional on letting Robinson join Reform. Its hard to find anyone more loathsome than Tommy Robinson in British politics, but being horrible is not a crime.

Reform (Farage) got a different £5m under the table donation. Robinson is gutter racism. Farage is trying to be its respectable face.

Reform turned down a $100m donation from musk to avoid Tommy Robinson

I assume the £5m did not come with similar strings attached.

The Green Party is now a lot more racist. Have you not read of the comments coming out of people withing the party, particularly its newly elected local councillors?

IMO Labour are more subtle, but are as racist as Reform. They use race to attack politicians in other parties - they portray non-white Conservatives as race traitors, for example. They have a white saviour outlook, and stereotype and condescend us poor inferior groups: remember the Labour MP who said James Cleverly was not properly black because his family are affluent.

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm »

KaiserPro wrote: post #111
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To Reforms credit while I do think they started off as a bit of a looney party that relied on theatrics they managed to evolve into a more mature party ever since Zia Yusuf joined and you see how the tone of Nigel Farage has already become more serious. To some that will look like they became "Conservatives 2.0" but I don't think we have another real conservative party left anyway.

> ever since Zia Yusuf joined The same one that threatening concentration camps in areas that don't vote for them? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c362e9p385yo Farage is not the most extreme in his party. Sadly.

Ironic. You are admitting that you yourself don't want to be near these people who are going to get put in detention centres (who would probably otherwise be free).

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by krona »

deletedie wrote: post #87
krona wrote: post #48

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> The Metropolitan Police are (justifiably) expecting this protest to turn into a violent riot Robinson has organised 4 London rallies in recent years and this is the second Unite The Kingdom rally. So what makes you think this will be the one which turns violent? It's basically families listening to speakers on a stage.

Each and every one of those rallies has been uniquely, relative to other rallies, violent https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/13/unite-the-ki... https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/23/police-clash...

> About 5,000 counter-protesters from trade unions and anti-fascist groups marched in a separate route in central London.

There's your answer.

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by graemep »

chadgpt3 wrote: post #105
graemep wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, nothing to do with Reform. Organised by Tommy Robinson. The guy Reform think is such a nutcase that they turned down a huge donation from Elon Musk because Elon made it conditional on letting Robinson join Reform. Its hard to find anyone more loathsome than Tommy Robinson in British politics, but being horrible is not a crime.

Would there be any point where a horrible person and 150k of his supporters marching would become a crime?

Not if they stuck to marching, no.

If they turned violent, or deliberately intimidated people, then yes.

Under UK law if they said certain things that are considered hate speech laws, then again yes.

There are also laws around protests (where and when, legal mechanisms of bans, orders banning particular individuals from particular actions) so if anyone breached those, again, yes.

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by conradludgate »

KaiserPro wrote: post #112
nailer wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Keep is mind the UK left is aligned with Islam The Left has a fascination with Palestine, not islam. People who push the "the left love poltical islam" are usally trying to sell you that London is a wasteland, or that white people can't speak in public

AI enhanced misinformation campaigns working as intended

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by graemep »

KaiserPro wrote: post #111
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To Reforms credit while I do think they started off as a bit of a looney party that relied on theatrics they managed to evolve into a more mature party ever since Zia Yusuf joined and you see how the tone of Nigel Farage has already become more serious. To some that will look like they became "Conservatives 2.0" but I don't think we have another real conservative party left anyway.

> ever since Zia Yusuf joined The same one that threatening concentration camps in areas that don't vote for them? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c362e9p385yo Farage is not the most extreme in his party. Sadly.

It was a very clever move. It threatened to put detention centres ("concentration camps" is absurd rhetoric) in areas that voted specifically for the Green Party (not "don't vote for them" in general) that says asylum seekers are welcome, putting the Green Party in the position of saying they did not want them near their supporters.

Interesting that your example of the dangerous racist extremist is a brown Muslim.

Also interesting I got downvoted for a true purely factual comment. Says something about the people doing it.

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by graemep »

KaiserPro wrote: post #112
nailer wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Keep is mind the UK left is aligned with Islam The Left has a fascination with Palestine, not islam. People who push the "the left love poltical islam" are usally trying to sell you that London is a wasteland, or that white people can't speak in public

Depends how you interpret "aligned with" and "Islam".

They "left" has formed alliances with Islamist extremists so i think the "aligned with" bit is accurate.

The "Islam" is inaccurate and conflates Islamism with Islam. Most British Muslims are not extremist nutcases, and there are plenty on the "right" too - numerous Conservatives, some in Reform (e.g. Zia Yusuf), etc.

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